Monkey's evolving into man is the same saying amoral evolves into moral... laughable...

Your ignorance is laughable troll.

Thommy M.

2010-05-12 11:18:44 UTC

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Burkhard

2010-05-12 11:36:43 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.

Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Here some examples where they do:

Brosnan SF, de Waal FBM (2003) Monkeys reject unequal pay. Nature
425:297–299

Clutton-Brock TH, et al. (2000) Individual contributions to
babysitting in a cooperative
mongoose, Suricata suricatta. Proc R Soc London Ser B 267:301–305.

Wilkinson, Gerald S. (1984) Reciprocal Food Sharing in the Vampire
Bat. Nature. 308: 181-184

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Here are some examples where they do:
Friederike Rangea, Lisa Horna, Zsófia Viranyi and Ludwig Hubera The
absence of reward induces inequity aversion in dogs. PNAS 2009 106 (1)
340-345;

Roma PG, Silberberg A, Ruggiero AM, Suomi SJ (2006) Capuchin monkeys,
inequity
aversion, and the frustration effect. J Comp Psychol 120:67–73.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

Post by old man joe
they don't make
religions trying to prove their is no God such as the Atheists / Evolutionists try to do.
animals don't unite as an army and try to take dominance of the earth away from man. Darwin missed
that point as well as his kind misses that point.

And the point would be what exactly? Why would the ToE imply that
animals other than humans should do this? As for individual species,
several viruses and bacteria come to mind who might just be able to do
that all on their own.

Post by old man joe
only in the minds of Atheists, trying desperately to find a philosophic ( Gnostic ) religion that
will for a awhile soothe their intense fear of Judgment Day do human's come from monkey's.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154

... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

Post by old man joe
insight to wonder where the progenitor of the monkey came from, perhaps he'll examine where that
entity came from. and the entity before that... and the entity before that... all the way back to
his laughable beginning point where he concludes life came out of absolute sterility from a one
celled entity which gave life to itself, and morality, from elements that are not alive.
and these call the elect ignorant.

AllSeeing-I

2010-05-12 12:54:20 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Brosnan SF, de Waal FBM (2003) Monkeys reject unequal pay. Nature
425:297–299
Clutton-Brock TH, et al. (2000) Individual contributions to
babysitting in a cooperative
mongoose, Suricata suricatta. Proc R Soc London Ser B 267:301–305.
Wilkinson, Gerald S. (1984) Reciprocal Food Sharing in the Vampire
Bat. Nature. 308: 181-184

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Friederike Rangea, Lisa Horna, Zsófia Viranyi and Ludwig Hubera The
absence of reward induces inequity aversion in dogs. PNAS 2009 106 (1)
340-345;
Roma PG, Silberberg A, Ruggiero AM, Suomi SJ (2006) Capuchin monkeys,
inequity
aversion, and the frustration effect. J Comp Psychol 120:67–73.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

The bottom line is the capacity to make decisions, be it the decision
of right and wrong or some other kind of complex decision, is not the
mark of something that sponteanously happenes via an evolutionary
process. Nothing of the sort has been observed to take place on this
planet.

The fact is, the capacity to make decisions has to be in place from
the get-go in order for the species to even survive.

Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

Burkhard

2010-05-12 13:10:42 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

Post by AllSeeing-I
The bottom line is the capacity to make decisions, be it the decision
of right and wrong or some other kind of complex decision, is not the
mark of something that sponteanously happenes via an evolutionary
process.

So you proclaim. I don't have any reasons to believe you., Old man Joe
at least tried to give evidence for this claim. I showed that this
evidence is wrong, we do observe exactly the sort of behaviour in
animals that he claimed we don;t. Does not in itself mean the
conclusion is wrong, but it does mean that the arguments he offered in
support of the conclusion are .

Post by AllSeeing-I
Nothing of the sort has been observed to take place on this
planet.
The fact is, the capacity to make decisions has to be in place from
the get-go in order for the species to even survive.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

AllSeeing-I

2010-05-12 13:24:03 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.

Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?

See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

- Hide quoted text -

Post by Burkhard
- Show quoted text -

Erwin Moller

2010-05-12 13:38:43 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.
Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

And there runs the coward again.

Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
wrong again with all his assumptions.
But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.

So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
Perception".
I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
talking about. Time after time again.
It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.

Erwin Moller

--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare

AllSeeing-I

2010-05-12 13:43:47 UTC

On May 12, 8:38 am, Erwin Moller

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.
Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

And there runs the coward again.
Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
wrong again with all his assumptions.
But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.
So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
Perception".
I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
talking about. Time after time again.
It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.
Erwin Moller

Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

Erwin Moller

2010-05-12 15:52:07 UTC

On May 12, 8:38 am, Erwin Moller

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.
Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

And there runs the coward again.
Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
wrong again with all his assumptions.
But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.
So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
Perception".
I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
talking about. Time after time again.
It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.
Erwin Moller

Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

And there runs the coward again.
Such a familiar pattern.

Are you surprised your cult is declining by the day in the civilized world?

Erwin Moller

Prophet

2010-05-12 15:53:46 UTC

On May 12, 10:52 am, Erwin Moller

On May 12, 8:38 am, Erwin Moller

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.
Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

And there runs the coward again.
Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
wrong again with all his assumptions.
But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.
So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
Perception".
I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
talking about. Time after time again.
It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.
Erwin Moller

Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

And there runs the coward again.
Such a familiar pattern.
Are you surprised your cult is declining by the day in the civilized world?

Of course I'm not suprised. it's biblical and fortold to happen.

Erwin Moller

2010-05-12 15:58:46 UTC

On May 12, 10:52 am, Erwin Moller

On May 12, 8:38 am, Erwin Moller

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.
Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

And there runs the coward again.
Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
wrong again with all his assumptions.
But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.
So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
Perception".
I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
talking about. Time after time again.
It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.
Erwin Moller

Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

And there runs the coward again.
Such a familiar pattern.
Are you surprised your cult is declining by the day in the civilized world?

Of course I'm not suprised. it's biblical and fortold to happen.

Foretold by the Bible? Whahaha!

You mean like the Bible always foretold things *in retrospect*?
When will your cult get something right *upfront*?
Never did.
Never will.

You are one big failure and so is your cult.
You tried to keep humanity stupid, and were surprisingly succesful for a
long time.
But your days are over.

Oh yes, please pass some cheese while I enjoy you making a even bigger
fool of yourself. :-)

Erwin Moller

Uncle Vic

2010-05-12 16:46:13 UTC

Post by AllSeeing-I
Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

And there runs the coward again.
Such a familiar pattern.
Are you surprised your cult is declining by the day in the civilized world?

Of course I'm not suprised. it's biblical and fortold to happen.

Mmm-hmm. Everything is fortold in the bible if you've mastered the art of
re-defining words and phrases. Even the RCC accepts evolution now, only
because they've re-interpreted the bible and made the claim that it is how
"God" created everything.

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
"The Bible talks about the first rainbow after the Great Flood, and we see
rainbows in the sky today. This is proof of the divinity of Jesus Christ
and the existence of God." - Zacharias Mulletstein

Christopher A. Lee

2010-05-12 17:31:53 UTC

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by AllSeeing-I
Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

And there runs the coward again.
Such a familiar pattern.
Are you surprised your cult is declining by the day in the civilized world?

Of course I'm not suprised. it's biblical and fortold to happen.

It's been quite a long time since they were literalist.

But in any case, I have always suspected that the primitives knew they
were telling just-so stories and that it was only later that people
took them seriously. Whether it was the Hebrews, the Greeks or any
other culture.

Syd M.

2010-05-12 20:13:27 UTC

Post by Prophet
On May 12, 10:52 am, Erwin Moller

On May 12, 8:38 am, Erwin Moller

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.
Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

And there runs the coward again.
Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
wrong again with all his assumptions.
But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.
So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
Perception".
I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
talking about. Time after time again.
It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.
Erwin Moller

Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

And there runs the coward again.
Such a familiar pattern.
Are you surprised your cult is declining by the day in the civilized world?

Of course I'm not suprised. it's biblical and fortold to happen.

Any excuse to escape the reality, huh?

PDW

Father Haskell

2010-05-12 20:47:20 UTC

On May 12, 11:52 am, Erwin Moller

On May 12, 8:38 am, Erwin Moller

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.
Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

And there runs the coward again.
Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
wrong again with all his assumptions.
But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.
So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
Perception".
I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
talking about. Time after time again.
It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.
Erwin Moller

Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

And there runs the coward again.
Such a familiar pattern.
Are you surprised your cult is declining by the day in the civilized world?
Erwin Moller
--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
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The day is swiftly approaching when omj's own children
will ask, "Mommy? What were christians?"

Syd M.

2010-05-12 20:08:08 UTC

Post by AllSeeing-I
On May 12, 8:38 am, Erwin Moller

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

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Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.
Not much difference if you ask me.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

And there runs the coward again.
Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
wrong again with all his assumptions.
But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.
So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
Perception".
I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
talking about. Time after time again.
It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.
Erwin Moller

Want some cheeze with that whine moller?

Got no evidence, Assman? Gee, why am I not surprised.

PDW

Wombat

2010-05-12 13:47:33 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.

Why should he. You have shown, time and time again, that you will
ignore anything supplied. You demand evidence while refusing to give
any to support your outlandish claims. The word hypocrite seems to
fit your behaviour.
Not a very religious position for you to take?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Not much difference if you ask me.

We don't, and anyway, why should we.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

Why,. It was bullshit when you first trotted it out, and it remains
bullshit now.

Wombat

Prophet

2010-05-12 14:23:43 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.

Post by AllSeeing-I
Not much difference if you ask me.

We don't, and anyway, why should we.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

Why,. It was bullshit when you first trotted it out, and it remains
bullshit now.
Wombat- Hide quoted text -
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What you BoZo's never can address is much of the ToE, including this
topic, has ever been actually observed taking place by human eyes.

None of it.

Instead you play the blame-shift game.

Where is your REAL data showing how amoral can give rise to moral? Or
exactly how the ability to make decisions evolved?

The most basic of decision making abilities (fight or flight) has to
be part of the species from the beginning in order for that species to
even survive.

The ToE is an utter failure and the largest hoax perpetrated on
mankind in the history of the world.

it really is THAT simple.

Wombat

2010-05-12 17:19:56 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.

Post by AllSeeing-I
Not much difference if you ask me.

We don't, and anyway, why should we.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

Why,. It was bullshit when you first trotted it out, and it remains
bullshit now.
Wombat- Hide quoted text -
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What you BoZo's never can address is much of the ToE, including this
topic, has ever been actually observed taking place by human eyes.
None of it.
Instead you play the blame-shift game.
Where is your REAL data showing how amoral can give rise to moral? Or
exactly how the ability to make decisions evolved?
The most basic of decision making abilities (fight or flight) has to
be part of the species from the beginning in order for that species to
even survive.
The ToE is an utter failure and the largest hoax perpetrated on
mankind in the history of the world.
it really is THAT simple.

Is that froth from your mouth, or did you try to eat some soap.
You're pathetic.
No one will EVER AGAIN give you the evidence you demand because no one
believes you would even look at it. You were the one who said
learning about modern science was too hard. Remain ignorant, it makes
you even more of a loser and we will continue to laugh at you.

Wombat

Syd M.

2010-05-12 20:09:51 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.

Post by AllSeeing-I
Not much difference if you ask me.

We don't, and anyway, why should we.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

Why,. It was bullshit when you first trotted it out, and it remains
bullshit now.
Wombat- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

What you BoZo's never can address is much of the ToE, including this
topic, has ever been actually observed taking place by human eyes.
None of it.

Doesn't matter.
Your attempt at handwaving will not make the TOE vanish. Nor your
whining. Your not believing it has no effect, and your ignorance will
not make even one bit of the facts vanish.

It's JUST THAT SIMPLE, son.

PDW

Lady Godevo

2010-05-13 00:00:03 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.

Post by AllSeeing-I
Not much difference if you ask me.

We don't, and anyway, why should we.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

Why,. It was bullshit when you first trotted it out, and it remains
bullshit now.
Wombat- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

What you BoZo's never can address is much of the ToE, including this
topic, has ever been actually observed taking place by human eyes.
None of it.
Instead you play the blame-shift game.
Where is your REAL data showing how amoral can give rise to moral? Or
exactly how the ability to make decisions evolved?
The most basic of decision making abilities (fight or flight) has to
be part of the species from the beginning in order for that species to
even survive.
The ToE is an utter failure and the largest hoax perpetrated on
mankind in the history of the world.
it really is THAT simple.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Actually, fight or flight is not "a decision making ability". It is
in fact an inborn response, ie in our and all animals, genetic make
up. It is caused by the autonomic nervous system and leads to very
specific bodily responses. Responses over which you have no control
and therefore cannot make any decision about having. By your
reasoning, our whole species should have died out before it ever got
started because infants certainly do not have the ability to make
thoughtful decisions. The fact is you speak about things of which you
have no knoweledge and for which you have no intent on learning. Your
ignorance is obvious to everyone but you. Even though science is
difficult, if you want to take part in discussions which include
science, you need to make the effort to learn some science.

Kimberly

Burkhard

2010-05-12 15:44:56 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?

You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?

You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
or excerpts.

Really? Examples? I tend to check all my references, and the ones
above at least have all the information necessary to locate them and
check their content. Of course, I might sometimes slip. If in such a
case you struggle to identify an article, just ask and I can supply
the missing information.

Post by AllSeeing-I
Not much difference if you ask me.

Good thing than that nobody does.

why ?

Post by AllSeeing-I
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

why?

Why?
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.
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Post by Burkhard
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Uncle Vic

2010-05-12 16:41:00 UTC

Post by AllSeeing-I
See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.

Is that available as a pop-up book?

Syd M.

2010-05-12 20:05:54 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?
The bottom line is the capacity to make decisions, be it the decision
of right and wrong or some other kind of complex decision, is not the
mark of something that sponteanously happenes via an evolutionary
process. Nothing of the sort has been observed to take place on this
planet.
The fact is, the capacity to make decisions has to be in place from
the get-go in order for the species to even survive.
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

Still wrong, Assman.
Evolution will NOT vanish just because the lot of you don't like it.

PDW

Seon Ferguson

2010-05-12 23:23:46 UTC

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

Post by old man joe
they don't make
religions trying to prove their is no God such as the Atheists /
Evolutionists try to do.
animals don't unite as an army and try to take dominance of the earth
away from man. Darwin missed
that point as well as his kind misses that point.

Post by old man joe
only in the minds of Atheists, trying desperately to find a philosophic
( Gnostic ) religion that
will for a awhile soothe their intense fear of Judgment Day do human's
come from monkey's.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have
come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

Post by old man joe
insight to wonder where the progenitor of the monkey came from, perhaps
he'll examine where that
entity came from. and the entity before that... and the entity before
that... all the way back to
his laughable beginning point where he concludes life came out of
absolute sterility from a one
celled entity which gave life to itself, and morality, from elements
that are not alive.
and these call the elect ignorant.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?
The bottom line is the capacity to make decisions, be it the decision
of right and wrong or some other kind of complex decision, is not the
mark of something that sponteanously happenes via an evolutionary
process. Nothing of the sort has been observed to take place on this
planet.
The fact is, the capacity to make decisions has to be in place from
the get-go in order for the species to even survive.
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

No it is because we have an evolved brain, more evolved than animals but we
are still part of the animal kingdom and distant cousins of Apes.

Father Haskell

2010-05-13 20:44:20 UTC

Post by Seon Ferguson

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

Post by old man joe
they don't make
religions trying to prove their is no God such as the Atheists /
Evolutionists try to do.
animals don't unite as an army and try to take dominance of the earth
away from man. Darwin missed
that point as well as his kind misses that point.

Post by old man joe
only in the minds of Atheists, trying desperately to find a philosophic
( Gnostic ) religion that
will for a awhile soothe their intense fear of Judgment Day do human's
come from monkey's.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have
come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

Post by old man joe
insight to wonder where the progenitor of the monkey came from, perhaps
he'll examine where that
entity came from. and the entity before that... and the entity before
that... all the way back to
his laughable beginning point where he concludes life came out of
absolute sterility from a one
celled entity which gave life to itself, and morality, from elements
that are not alive.
and these call the elect ignorant.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?
The bottom line is the capacity to make decisions, be it the decision
of right and wrong or some other kind of complex decision, is not the
mark of something that sponteanously happenes via an evolutionary
process. Nothing of the sort has been observed to take place on this
planet.
The fact is, the capacity to make decisions has to be in place from
the get-go in order for the species to even survive.
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

No it is because we have an evolved brain, more evolved than animals but we
are still part of the animal kingdom and distant cousins of Apes.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

All animals are equally evolved, since all share a common
ancestor. Difference between human and other animal
brains is one of specialization.

Seon Ferguson

2010-05-14 03:45:29 UTC

Post by Father Haskell

Post by Seon Ferguson

Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
compared to humans.
Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
_diversity_, first and foremost.

Post by old man joe
Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
sort of the point.

Post by old man joe
they don't make
religions trying to prove their is no God such as the Atheists /
Evolutionists try to do.
animals don't unite as an army and try to take dominance of the earth
away from man. Darwin missed
that point as well as his kind misses that point.

Post by old man joe
only in the minds of Atheists, trying desperately to find a philosophic
( Gnostic ) religion that
will for a awhile soothe their intense fear of Judgment Day do human's
come from monkey's.

I take it you are a greengrocer's?

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have
come from because that's
where their science ends

Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the

Post by old man joe
insight to wonder where the progenitor of the monkey came from, perhaps
he'll examine where that
entity came from. and the entity before that... and the entity before
that... all the way back to
his laughable beginning point where he concludes life came out of
absolute sterility from a one
celled entity which gave life to itself, and morality, from elements
that are not alive.
and these call the elect ignorant.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why muddy the waters?
The bottom line is the capacity to make decisions, be it the decision
of right and wrong or some other kind of complex decision, is not the
mark of something that sponteanously happenes via an evolutionary
process. Nothing of the sort has been observed to take place on this
planet.
The fact is, the capacity to make decisions has to be in place from
the get-go in order for the species to even survive.
Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.

No it is because we have an evolved brain, more evolved than animals but we
are still part of the animal kingdom and distant cousins of Apes.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

All animals are equally evolved, since all share a common
ancestor. Difference between human and other animal
brains is one of specialization.

True we do and humans and Apes share 90% of the DNA. Only a ignorant person
wouldn't see Apes are our distant cousins. But we can believe in things like
God or religion (all of which is BS) so can't you argue that our brains have
evolved? I mean you don't see animals going to church or scamming poor old
women out of their life savings because of some invisible sky pixie.

Ala

2010-06-02 23:33:39 UTC

Post by Seon Ferguson
No it is because we have an evolved brain, more evolved than animals but
we are still part of the animal kingdom and distant cousins of Apes.

I have heard our brains make us also lizard cousins

Wombat

2010-06-03 05:37:36 UTC

Post by Ala

Post by Seon Ferguson
No it is because we have an evolved brain, more evolved than animals but
we are still part of the animal kingdom and distant cousins of Apes.

I have heard our brains make us also lizard cousins

But very distant.

Wombat

Pink Freud

2010-05-12 11:37:41 UTC

Post by old man joe
the laughter continues

Hmmm.

Post by old man joe
as the Atheists

There's no capitalisation on 'atheists', as you have been told.

Post by old man joe
scramble to concoct a philosophy,

There is no particular philosophy associated with atheism.

Post by old man joe
which is actually a
religion,

By definition atheists do not 'concoct religion'. Is English not your first
language?

Post by old man joe
based on what amounts to carnival sideshows,

What *are* you talking about?

Post by old man joe
trying to soothe their fear of upcoming
Judgment Day.

By definition atheists do not 'fear... Judgment Day'.

Post by old man joe
so here we have their favorite point of view around which everything else they've concocted
revolves...

Could you be about to lie a strawman into existence? An old, stupid one?

Post by old man joe
man coming from a monkey.

Right on cue!

Post by old man joe
animals are amoral.

What exactly does 'amoral' mean to you?

You lie continually about the meaning of the word 'atheist', so I would like
to clarify if you actually understand what 'amoral' means.

And besides which, you are wrong.

Studies have shown that animals do display morality, altrusitic behaviour,
and self-sacrifice. Don't you even bother googling to check your primitive
misconceptions before you spew them forth online?

Post by old man joe
morality is strictly a human trait.

A lie.

Post by old man joe
animals do not make Constitutions

Relevance?

Post by old man joe
which govern people and the
peoples Government.

Gibberish.

Post by old man joe
animals don't understand nor practice equality

Relevance?

Post by old man joe
nor complain when they're not
treated fairly.

You speak ferret now?

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...

That's 'wear', I assume?
Relevance?

Post by old man joe
the list goes on and on

Lists of irrelevant things tend to do that.

Post by old man joe
how animals
and humans are not at all alike

Humans ARE animals.

Post by old man joe
as far as their corporate make-up is concerned.

Gibberish again. You are saying that humans and other animals are made up of
corporations, now?

Post by old man joe
they don't make
religions

They demonstrate superstitious behaviour and pass it on to their children.
They're nearly there.

Post by old man joe
trying to prove their is no God

All religions try (and fail) to prove that there is no god (where 'god' in
this instance is 'the god of that other religion')

Post by old man joe
such as the Atheists / Evolutionists try to do.

You don't understand the basic definitions of the words you attempt to use.

Post by old man joe
animals don't unite as an army and try to take dominance of the earth away
from man.

Of course they do. They do it all the time. You really are unforgivably
stupid and ignorant.

Post by old man joe
Darwin missed
that point as well as his kind misses that point.

That is nonsense gibberish again.

Post by old man joe
only in the minds of Atheists, trying desperately to find a philosophic
( Gnostic ) religion that
will for a awhile soothe their intense fear of Judgment Day do human's come from monkey's.

Four lies in a single sentence.

Post by old man joe
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have
come

Your strawman, not mine.

Post by old man joe
from because that's
where their science ends...

We know where monkeys evolved from, liar.
And it's not 'their science' either, liar. Science isn't subjective and full
of lies and hatred, like religion. Science is impartial. It belongs to
noone.

Post by old man joe
with standing still...

Gibberish. No doubt a lie, but I can't even parse it.

Post by old man joe
should someone among the Atheists

You have a really fucked up view of the world.

Post by old man joe
have the
insight to wonder

Wilfully ignorant lying prick talks of 'insight'! What a hoot.

Post by old man joe
where the progenitor of the monkey came from,

They know where the progenitor of the monkey came from, you wilfully
ignorant dipshit.
Where did the progenitor of your 'god' come from?

Post by old man joe
perhaps he'll examine where that
entity came from.

The monkey came from its parents, dipshit. Do you really need this explained
to you? See, when two monkeys really love and trust each other..

Post by old man joe
and the entity before that... and the entity before that...

You really need to sort out your obsession with monkey sex.

Post by old man joe
all the way back to
his laughable beginning point

All the way back to primitive organisms, yes.

Post by old man joe
where he concludes life came out of absolute sterility from a one
celled entity which gave life to itself, and morality, from elements that are not alive.

And another lie. Science has not 'concluded' anything in this area, despite
how much some of the religious wish to deliberately lie about it.

Post by old man joe
and these call the elect ignorant.

You ARE, without a doubt, one of the most ignorant people I am ever likely
to encounter.

JohnN

2010-05-12 14:46:16 UTC

Post by Pink Freud
You ARE, without a doubt, one of the most ignorant people I am ever likely
to encounter.

That's our old man joe: proud to be a leader in the lowest percental.

JohnN

Erwin Moller

2010-05-12 12:34:51 UTC

old man joe wrote:

<snip>

Old man Joe,

Since crafting an intelligent reply to you is as useful as asking a rock
to float in mid air, I keep it brief:
1) Get lost, you spamming maniac,
2) Or show us all you actually are able to finish a discussion. That
means defending your wild, stupid and misguided claims.

Take your pick.

Erwin Moller

Richo

2010-05-12 13:12:27 UTC

So you imagine.
It is all in your head - none of this stuff is real.

Post by old man joe
so here we have their favorite point of view around which everything else they've concocted
revolves... man coming from a monkey.

Man is a primate we came from earlier primates - monkeys are primates
- they come from earlier primates.
Go back far enough and there is a primate that is the ancestor of both
humans and monkeys - and yes that creature would look a lot like a
monkey.
It would have to - to be the ancestor of both humans and monkeys.

Post by old man joe
animals are amoral.

Some of them are - some of them feel compassion and care about their
fellow creatures.
I am one such animal.

Post by old man joe
morality is strictly a human trait.

Yes.
Animals are made of flesh and bones and blood and guts.
What are you made of?

Dissect a mouse - it has a heart, lungs, liver kidneys.
Dissect a human - it has a heart, lungs, liver, kidneys.

Animals eat, breathe, excrete, fuck, give birth, die.
Humans do all these things.

Post by old man joe
animals do not make Constitutions which govern people and the
peoples Government.

Some animals do. Animals that are like me.
Animals like me can do things other animals cannot do.

Eagles can do something that animals like me cannot do - they can fly.

I can think imagine and reason better than other smaller brained
animals and Jehovah Witnesses - but I cannot fly like a bird or swim
like a seal or run like a cheetah.
I cannot burrow through the earth like a worm.
I cannot digest wood like a termite.

Post by old man joe
animals don't understand nor practice equality nor complain when

they're not

Post by old man joe
treated fairly.

Some animals do. Animals like me.

Post by old man joe
they don't ware clothes to hide their shame... the list goes on and

on how animals

Post by old man joe
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned. they don't make
religions trying to prove their is no God such as the Atheists / Evolutionists try to do.

Giraffes are different from other animals.
A Giraffe is still an animal.

Post by old man joe
animals don't unite as an army and try to take dominance of the earth away from man. Darwin missed
that point as well as his kind misses that point.
only in the minds of Atheists, trying desperately to find a philosophic ( Gnostic ) religion that
will for a awhile soothe their intense fear of Judgment Day do human's come from monkey's.
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the
insight to wonder where the progenitor of the monkey came from, perhaps he'll examine where that
entity came from. and the entity before that... and the entity before that... all the way back to
his laughable beginning point where he concludes life came out of absolute sterility from a one
celled entity which gave life to itself, and morality, from elements that are not alive.
and these call the elect ignorant.

Yes. And call water wet and fire hot.

Mark.

Steve O

2010-05-12 13:24:25 UTC

You are so wrong on so many levels here, it's difficult to know where to
start, so excuse me if i don't bother- you are obviously too far gone.

--
Steve O
a.a.2240 BAAWA
Theological Noncognitivist
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from Purgatory by Papal Indulgence

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises

2010-05-12 15:27:03 UTC

Post by old man joe
the laughter continues as the Atheists scramble to concoct a philosophy, which is actually a
religion, based on what amounts to carnival sideshows, trying to soothe their fear of upcoming
Judgment Day.
so here we have their favorite point of view around which everything else they've concocted
revolves... man coming from a monkey.
animals are amoral.
morality is strictly a human trait. animals do not make Constitutions which govern people and the
peoples Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality nor complain when they're not
treated fairly. they don't ware clothes to hide their shame... the list goes on and on how animals
and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is concerned. they don't make
religions trying to prove their is no God such as the Atheists / Evolutionists try to do.
animals don't unite as an army and try to take dominance of the earth away from man. Darwin missed
that point as well as his kind misses that point.
only in the minds of Atheists, trying desperately to find a philosophic ( Gnostic ) religion that
will for a awhile soothe their intense fear of Judgment Day do human's come from monkey's.
they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have come from because that's
where their science ends... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the
insight to wonder where the progenitor of the monkey came from, perhaps he'll examine where that
entity came from. and the entity before that... and the entity before that... all the way back to
his laughable beginning point where he concludes life came out of absolute sterility from a one
celled entity which gave life to itself, and morality, from elements that are not alive.
and these call the elect ignorant.

Hey, why you think they test medicines and psychology on monkeys, pigs
and rats?

You Christians have all of the above: MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO as a
monkey; LAZY like a pig, and ADDICTED to junk food like rats.

You should study the zoo first before understanding human nature.

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John Baker

2010-05-12 15:42:37 UTC

On Wed, 12 May 2010 06:42:59 -0400, old man joe <***@home.001>
wrote:

<snip abysmal stupidity>

Up to your usual post-and-run bullshit I see, JoJo.

Your bullshit doen't have a leg to stand on, Joey, and you damned well
know it. Otherwise you'd try to back it up rather than just dropping a
turd and running away.

But then, I seriously doubt whether you actually believe the crap you
post.

AllSeeing-I

2010-05-13 03:20:50 UTC

Post by John Baker
<snip abysmal stupidity>
Up to your usual post-and-run bullshit I see, JoJo.
Your bullshit doen't have a leg to stand on, Joey, and you damned well
know it. Otherwise you'd try to back it up rather than just dropping a
turd and running away.
But then, I seriously doubt whether you actually believe the crap you
post.

i'm trying to save your soul.

but you resist

p***@hotmail.com

2010-05-13 03:29:11 UTC

i'm trying to save your soul.
but you resist

You're trying to push him out of the way of a train that only exists
in your imagination, idiot. If your moronic superstition didn't have
2000yr of history behind it, you'd be in a mental health facility
where you belong.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!

Seon Ferguson

2010-05-13 03:49:06 UTC

Post by p***@hotmail.com

i'm trying to save your soul.
but you resist

When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion it is called religion

Post by p***@hotmail.com
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!

Wombat

2010-05-13 05:35:18 UTC

i'm trying to save your soul.
but you resist

You think your dishonest behaviour is a magnet to draw unbelievers to
whichever deity you have created in your mind. Get real.

Wombat

Ben Kaufman

2010-05-13 13:09:24 UTC

Post by Wombat

i'm trying to save your soul.
but you resist

You think your dishonest behaviour is a magnet to draw unbelievers to
whichever deity you have created in your mind. Get real.
Wombat

As the saying goes, "You can get more flies with honey than vinegar" but shit
seems to work pretty well too. :-)

Ben

Ala

2010-06-02 01:03:53 UTC

Post by Ben Kaufman

Post by Wombat

i'm trying to save your soul.
but you resist

You think your dishonest behaviour is a magnet to draw unbelievers to
whichever deity you have created in your mind. Get real.
Wombat

As the saying goes, "You can get more flies with honey than vinegar" but shit
seems to work pretty well too. :-)

You got that line from watching The Big Bang Theory.

Ben Kaufman

2010-06-02 04:54:05 UTC

Post by Ala

Post by Ben Kaufman

Post by Wombat

i'm trying to save your soul.
but you resist

You think your dishonest behaviour is a magnet to draw unbelievers to
whichever deity you have created in your mind. Get real.
Wombat

As the saying goes, "You can get more flies with honey than vinegar" but shit
seems to work pretty well too. :-)

You got that line from watching The Big Bang Theory.

Sorry, I don't watch that show.

Ben

Syd

2010-05-13 06:43:37 UTC

i'm trying to save your soul.
but you resist

We don't want your 'help,' Assman.
Get that through your head.

PDW

Yap

2010-05-13 07:08:36 UTC

i'm trying to save your soul.

Who gave you the right to do any thing?
Your god could not even save the Haitian souls, numbering more than
200,000.

Post by AllSeeing-I
but you resist

He asks for you to fly kite.

Ben Kaufman

2010-05-13 13:12:50 UTC

Post by Yap

i'm trying to save your soul.

Who gave you the right to do any thing?
Your god could not even save the Haitian souls, numbering more than
200,000.

Post by AllSeeing-I
but you resist

He asks for you to fly kite.

It's not of "this world" that the benefits are seen. <WINK>

Ben

Father Haskell

2010-05-13 20:46:16 UTC

i'm trying to save your soul.
but you resist

Save it from what? Himself?

2010-05-12 17:15:26 UTC

Commandeering the computer in the nursing home's Alzheimer's wing, "old man

Post by old man joe
the laughter continues

Indeed.
It remains *at* you, as opposed to with you.

Btw, remind your nurse's aid to change your Depends.

kafir

2010-05-12 17:42:15 UTC

The laughter continues as old man joke scrambles to concoct a straw-
man atheism he can set afire, which is actually a
a figment of his imagination like his imaginary pal. His carnival
sideshow antics are ineffective in soothing his fear that there is no
god.

raven1

2010-05-12 19:25:30 UTC