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We should never die since the elements comprising the human body are not alive to begin with...
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old man joe
2009-12-10 09:31:59 UTC
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stupefied by the lack of understanding their own explanations, the Atheist / Evolutionists
have concocted a philosophy where elements of the Periodic Table come to life all by
themselves.

what's true for the human body as far as it being alive when the non living elements which
comprise it are not alive, is also true for all living things since all living thing's are
made up out of the non living elements found right here on earth.

a deceased human being's body compared to a living human being's body is exactly the same
as far as the elements which make them up are concerned. neither possesses life by reason
of the non living elements which comprise it.

why then do we die since nothing comprising the human body is alive to begin with ?

no mystery. no need for another cartoon show all about how life crawled out of the sea.
no need for another cartoon show how life came from outer space. the answer is simple,
direct, and is verified by our own conscious.

" Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the
breath of life; and man became a living being. " Gen. 2:7

we die because the Living God who gave life to all living things, who made all living
things out of the non-living elements of the earth, requires back to Himself the life He
put in man. Lk. 12:20

" You hide Your face, they are dismayed; You take away their spirit, they expire and
return to their dust. " Ps. 104:29

" "If He should determine to do so, If He should gather to Himself His spirit and His
breath, all flesh would perish together, And man would return to dust. " Ps. 104:29

the Atheist's and Evolutionist's will never find how it is that elements that are not
alive come to life without God who gave life to living things. cursing God and man as
they do only shows they are desperate and frustrated by God.
Erwin Moller
2009-12-10 20:34:16 UTC
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Post by old man joe
stupefied by the lack of understanding their own explanations, the Atheist / Evolutionists
have concocted a philosophy where elements of the Periodic Table come to life all by
themselves.
Hi Joe,

Elements come alive?
As in:
Carbon: I feel a little depressed today.
Nitrogen: Why is that my dear freind?
Carbon: I became selfconcious today and I am NOT ammused! My outer
orbital is giving me a headache.
Nitrogen: Let's walk over to Helium, she is always cheering me up.


No old man joe, elements are NOT alive.
They can, however, be combined into highly complex structures that
apparantly are alive.
Post by old man joe
what's true for the human body as far as it being alive when the non living elements which
comprise it are not alive, is also true for all living things since all living thing's are
made up out of the non living elements found right here on earth.
I asked you earlier but for some reason you cannot respond...
Please do now.
Here it is again: A cellphone is made out of atoms, agree?

Old Man Joe 'logic' would respond: "NO YOU IDIOT! Of course not. That
would mean that all atoms in that cellphone are cellphones themself!
Clearly not true. Evolutionists are so stuuuupid!"

I rest my case here and leave it to you to see/find the problem in that
kind of thinking.
Post by old man joe
a deceased human being's body compared to a living human being's body is exactly the same
as far as the elements which make them up are concerned. neither possesses life by reason
of the non living elements which comprise it.
Erm.....
Are you serious?

You are a slow learner.
Again a story to show your faulthy logic:

Old man Joe wrecks his car completely in a car accident.
He is lucky to survive it.
Old man Joe goes to car mechanic, bringing each and every part of the
wrecked car.
Carmechanic: "Sorry Joe, you car is beyond repair."
Old man Joe: "Of course not! What kind of carmechanic are you! All the
atoms are still there, so it is still a car! OH MY, carmechanics are
equally stupid as evolutionists."
Post by old man joe
why then do we die since nothing comprising the human body is alive to begin with ?
Because some thing are broke?
Is that that hard to see?
If your heart stops beating, your body is in serious trouble.

Your question is wrong because your ideas of life are outside reality.

The question you SHOULD ask yourself is: How can it be that stupid
matter/atoms gains conciousness, like in humans?

THEN you would have some serious thinking to do, and studying.
Much later, assuming you have the brains, you canmaybe starting to see
the real answer, which is complicated.
In all honesty: I think too complicated for a person who has trouble
understanding basic concepts as the theory of evolution.
Post by old man joe
no mystery.
Wrong again.
COnciousness is very mysterious and exiting.
You are too blinded to even phantom what you are missing.
Post by old man joe
no need for another cartoon show all about how life crawled out of the sea.
no need for another cartoon show how life came from outer space. the answer is simple,
direct, and is verified by our own conscious.
The cartoonshow is all yours.
It begins with a big serious looking man, bearded of course.

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Post by old man joe
the Atheist's and Evolutionist's will never find how it is that elements that are not
alive come to life without God who gave life to living things. cursing God and man as
they do only shows they are desperate and frustrated by God.
Speak for yourself.
You are not in the position to speak for all atheists, nor for all
'evolutionists'. Bah, I dislike that creationist invented word
'evolutionists'.

Now make a choice: Stick inside your old world with magic and
phantasies, or join the real man, and start wondering how simple/stupid
(even dead if you like) matter can create concious beings, like us.

Erwin Moller
--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare
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