There is no such deity as " Allah " ... its a name that doesn't relate to the Living God of the Bible...

[old man joe]

when someone speaks of ' Allah ' they mean that the God does not subsist as He
reveals Himself in Holy Scripture, namely, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

from the first line of the Holy Scriptures handed down by Him to the prophet Moses,
and later to the prophets and apostles of the Better Covenant ( and through them
alone to us ) the Name ' God ' renders the plural Name ' Elohiym '. Gen. 1:1 should
read...

" In the beginning Gods, They created the heavens and the earth. "

if the One True God did not subsist as Father, Son and Holy Spirit no such Name in
plural form would appear in Gen. 1:1. reading on a little further, God says " Let Us
( plural ) make man in Our ( plural ) image. ( singular ) at the cutting edge of
proper conduct before God is: are we willing to acknowledge the truth... lest we make
ourselves false witnesses.

in the passage of Deu. 6:4 the Middle Easterners and others find the their proof
text that there is but one God who does not reveal Himself as subsisting as Father,
Son and Holy Spirit. they are quite wrong to conclude this and thereby mark
themselves as blasphemers...

" Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one. "
Deu. 6:4

the word ' one ' in this verse is a plural-singular noun... called in grammar a
' uni-plural noun. ' this verse reads : " Hear, O Israel ( a uni-plural noun) The
LORD ( singular ) is our God, ( plural ) the LORD ( singular ) is one. ( a uni-plural
noun )

while the word ' Israel ' in this verse addresses a nation and not a single person
but a plurality, so too we are to understand the word
' one ' in this verse... a plurality... like the word ' tribe, country, team, clan,
army ' and so on.

there is no such revelation by the Living God that angelic beings had any part in
the creation of man, as some would like to think. personal pronouns refer to proper
nouns... and in this verse of Gen. 1:26 these personal pronouns refer to God... one
God of one likeness and not three Gods of 3 likenesses. this is the way God handed
His Word to Moses, and His OT prophets. to counter God's Word is tantamount to
calling God a liar.

in the New Testament we find the word ' God ' as a singular proper noun, ' Theos, '
as in Jn. 1:1. the Living God ( singular ) has long since handed His Name down to
the prophets of the Old Covenant as one God who is completely other than anything He
has created and is never to be compared to anything in creation as the First
Commandment declares.

the Messiah Himself points to the fact that the Holy Scriptures of the Old Covenant
are sufficient for man to know that there is one God who subsists as Father, Son and
Holy Spirit. Jn. 5:39

furthermore, the Father says " I, " the Son says " I " and the Holy Spirit says
" I. " rational Beings are self aware. when the Living God speaks of things to
come, it happens. God defines Himself in His Word as " knowing the end from the
beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done... Is. 46:9-11.
declaring things yet to come far separates the Living God from the false gods to
which the reprobate cling.

the Son of God, Jesus Christ, speaks of things to come and to say He is not the
Living God is blasphemy... which marks the speaker as dead in sin and passed by for
salvation. Jn. 8:24

Jesus Christ is named The Everlasting Father in Is. 9:6. this verse refers to the
Son and He alone and can be none other than Jesus Christ. to say otherwise calls God
a liar... and that is a serious matter since those who are saved are those who
believe the Word of God.

the Living God, the Messiah, declares that the Spirit of Truth will tell the elect
of things to come Jn. 16:13. the Holy Spirit filled David as we read in Ps. 51:11.
David knew of the Presence of this Divine Being and spoke thus of Him way back in
those days as do the apostles in the New Testament. it is not as though the
revelation of Himself to man as recorded in Holy Scripture was done in secret. the
authentic Word of God has been around for thousands of years.

as the Holy Spirit declares through the Apostle Paul... " even if we or an angel
from Heaven preach a gospel to you beside what we preached to you, let him be
accursed. " Ga. 1:8

***************************************************************************************************

Ex 22:20 " He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the LORD alone, shall be
utterly destroyed. "

[Father Haskell]

There are no deities, period.

[St. Jackanapes]

In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...

Post by Father Haskell
There are no deities, period.

But there are a shitload of liars saying that there is. One of the
biggest loads of shit would be called old joke joe, the originator of
this thread. By the way, did he write anything of interest? When I jump
onto an old joke joe thread I pass by reading his post and start with
the first reply. Everyone knows that he's got nothing interesting to
say.

[Father Haskell]

Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...

Post by Father Haskell
There are no deities, period.

But there are a shitload of liars saying that there is. One of the
biggest loads of shit would be called old joke joe, the originator of
this thread. By the way, did he write anything of interest? When I jump
onto an old joke joe thread I pass by reading his post and start with
the first reply. Everyone knows that he's got nothing interesting to
say.

I just responded to the title. Nothing in the post
was worth wasting ten seconds on.

[St. Jackanapes]

In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...

Post by Father Haskell

Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...

Post by Father Haskell
There are no deities, period.

But there are a shitload of liars saying that there is. One of the
biggest loads of shit would be called old joke joe, the originator of
this thread. By the way, did he write anything of interest? When I jump
onto an old joke joe thread I pass by reading his post and start with
the first reply. Everyone knows that he's got nothing interesting to
say.

I just responded to the title. Nothing in the post
was worth wasting ten seconds on.

Indeed.

[Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher]

There will be one god yet to be. As we civilize more and more of the
universe we bring it structure and unity. In due time the universe
itself will become conscious, and it will be the master of light and
time. It will then create this universe and make our evolution
possible.

Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...

Post by Father Haskell
There are no deities, period.

But there are a shitload of liars saying that there is. One of the
biggest loads of shit would be called old joke joe, the originator of
this thread. By the way, did he write anything of interest? When I jump
onto an old joke joe thread I pass by reading his post and start with
the first reply. Everyone knows that he's got nothing interesting to
say.
--
St. Jackanapes ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
-----------------------------------------------------------
A)http://www.jackanapes.wsB)http://www.voy.com/20630/
   C)http://www.jackanapes.ws/graph/jesusHchrist.jpg
----------------------------------------------
The ejaculate from Satan has the consistency
  ~ and smell of emesis." -- Andrew B Chung

[Velvet Elvis]

Yes, top poster, despite the bible's misogyny, racism, hate, advocacy of
slavery and xenophobia, mankind is evolving and becoming more civilized.

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:18:12 -0700 (PDT), Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
There will be one god yet to be. As we civilize more and more of the
universe we bring it structure and unity. In due time the universe
itself will become conscious, and it will be the master of light and
time. It will then create this universe and make our evolution
possible.

Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...

Post by Father Haskell
There are no deities, period.

But there are a shitload of liars saying that there is. One of the
biggest loads of shit would be called old joke joe, the originator of
this thread. By the way, did he write anything of interest? When I jump
onto an old joke joe thread I pass by reading his post and start with
the first reply. Everyone knows that he's got nothing interesting to
say.
--
St. Jackanapes ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
-----------------------------------------------------------
A)http://www.jackanapes.wsB)http://www.voy.com/20630/
   C)http://www.jackanapes.ws/graph/jesusHchrist.jpg
----------------------------------------------
The ejaculate from Satan has the consistency
  ~ and smell of emesis." -- Andrew B Chung

[Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher]

You are evolving ever more efficient ways to kill each other. It's too
bad you are taking all the rest of the planet with you.

Post by Velvet Elvis
Yes, top poster, despite the bible's misogyny, racism, hate, advocacy of
slavery and xenophobia, mankind is evolving and becoming more civilized.  
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:18:12 -0700 (PDT), Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
There will be one god yet to be. As we civilize more and more of the
universe we bring it structure and unity. In due time the universe
itself will become conscious, and it will be the master of light and
time. It will then create this universe and make our evolution
possible.

Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...

Post by Father Haskell
There are no deities, period.

But there are a shitload of liars saying that there is. One of the
biggest loads of shit would be called old joke joe, the originator of
this thread. By the way, did he write anything of interest? When I jump
onto an old joke joe thread I pass by reading his post and start with
the first reply. Everyone knows that he's got nothing interesting to
say.
--
St. Jackanapes ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
-----------------------------------------------------------
A)http://www.jackanapes.wsB)http://www.voy.com/20630/
   C)http://www.jackanapes.ws/graph/jesusHchrist.jpg
----------------------------------------------
The ejaculate from Satan has the consistency
  ~ and smell of emesis." -- Andrew B Chung

[Father Haskell]

On Aug 17, 6:44 pm, Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
You are evolving ever more efficient ways to kill each other. It's too
bad you are taking all the rest of the planet with you.

And soon, when we discover Solarmite, the
rest of the universe as well!

[Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher]

Soon the Moon's center of mass will shift and that will trigger
volcanoes, earthquakes, and landslides on earth.

Post by Father Haskell
On Aug 17, 6:44 pm, Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
You are evolving ever more efficient ways to kill each other. It's too
bad you are taking all the rest of the planet with you.

And soon, when we discover Solarmite, the
rest of the universe as well!

[Velvet Elvis]

How soon, and what proof do you have, top poster?

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:54:29 -0700 (PDT), Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
Soon the Moon's center of mass will shift and that will trigger
volcanoes, earthquakes, and landslides on earth.

Post by Father Haskell
On Aug 17, 6:44 pm, Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
You are evolving ever more efficient ways to kill each other. It's too
bad you are taking all the rest of the planet with you.

And soon, when we discover Solarmite, the
rest of the universe as well!

[Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher]

It should be obvious even to you that the mares of the Moon have more
metals than rest of the moon. They are the remains of a modulator
which was accidentally destroyed. The reactor cores melted down into
the soil. The off center mass caused the gravity lock of the Moon. The
core remnants had been dispersed, but they have been gradually
accumulating into precritical mass. When they go critical, they will
melt down to the Moon's center, changing the balance and orbit of the
Moon. Because of the gravity coupling this will cause massive tectonic
disasters on Earth.

Post by Velvet Elvis
How soon, and what proof do you have, top poster?
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:54:29 -0700 (PDT), Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
Soon the Moon's center of mass will shift and that will trigger
volcanoes, earthquakes, and landslides on earth.

Post by Father Haskell
On Aug 17, 6:44 pm, Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
You are evolving ever more efficient ways to kill each other. It's too
bad you are taking all the rest of the planet with you.

And soon, when we discover Solarmite, the
rest of the universe as well!

[Father Haskell]

On Aug 22, 4:30 am, Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher

Oh, you stupid, stupid, STUPID HUMANS!

Tightened that up a bit for you. You're welcome.

[Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher]

I am trying to be polite. At least you realize what you are.

Post by Father Haskell
On Aug 22, 4:30 am, Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher

Oh, you stupid, stupid, STUPID HUMANS!

Tightened that up a bit for you.  You're welcome.

[Father Haskell]

On Aug 21, 11:54 am, Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher

Post by Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
Soon the Moon's center of mass will shift and that will trigger
volcanoes, earthquakes, and landslides on earth.

Net effect would be zero. The moon's elliptical
orbit would produce more noticeable variation in
tidal pull.

[Reverend Dave]

Post by old man joe
when someone speaks of ' Allah ' they mean that the God does not subsist as He
reveals Himself in Holy Scripture, namely, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
from the first line of the Holy Scriptures handed down by Him to the prophet Moses,
and later to the prophets and apostles of the Better Covenant ( and
through them alone to us ) the Name ' God ' renders the plural Name '
Elohiym '. Gen. 1:1 should read...
" In the beginning Gods, They created the heavens and the earth. "
if the One True God did not subsist as Father, Son and Holy Spirit no such Name in
plural form would appear in Gen. 1:1. reading on a little further,
God says " Let Us ( plural ) make man in Our ( plural ) image. (
singular ) at the cutting edge of proper conduct before God is: are
we willing to acknowledge the truth... lest we make ourselves false
witnesses.
in the passage of Deu. 6:4 the Middle Easterners and others find the their proof
text that there is but one God who does not reveal Himself as
subsisting as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. they are quite wrong to
conclude this and thereby mark themselves as blasphemers...
" Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one. "
Deu. 6:4
the word ' one ' in this verse is a plural-singular noun... called in grammar a
' uni-plural noun. ' this verse reads : " Hear, O Israel ( a
uni-plural noun) The LORD ( singular ) is our God, ( plural ) the LORD
( singular ) is one. ( a uni-plural noun )
while the word ' Israel ' in this verse addresses a nation and not a single person
but a plurality, so too we are to understand the word
' one ' in this verse... a plurality... like the word ' tribe,
country, team, clan,
army ' and so on.
there is no such revelation by the Living God that angelic beings had any part in
the creation of man, as some would like to think. personal pronouns
refer to proper nouns... and in this verse of Gen. 1:26 these personal
pronouns refer to God... one God of one likeness and not three Gods of
3 likenesses. this is the way God handed His Word to Moses, and His
OT prophets. to counter God's Word is tantamount to calling God a
liar.
in the New Testament we find the word ' God ' as a singular proper noun, ' Theos, '
as in Jn. 1:1. the Living God ( singular ) has long since handed His
Name down to the prophets of the Old Covenant as one God who is
completely other than anything He has created and is never to be
compared to anything in creation as the First Commandment declares.
the Messiah Himself points to the fact that the Holy Scriptures of the Old Covenant
are sufficient for man to know that there is one God who subsists as
Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jn. 5:39
furthermore, the Father says " I, " the Son says " I " and the Holy Spirit says
" I. " rational Beings are self aware. when the Living God speaks of
things to come, it happens. God defines Himself in His Word as "
knowing the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things
which have not been done... Is. 46:9-11. declaring things yet to come
far separates the Living God from the false gods to which the
reprobate cling.
the Son of God, Jesus Christ, speaks of things to come and to say He is not the
Living God is blasphemy... which marks the speaker as dead in sin and
passed by for salvation. Jn. 8:24
Jesus Christ is named The Everlasting Father in Is. 9:6. this verse refers to the
Son and He alone and can be none other than Jesus Christ. to say
otherwise calls God a liar... and that is a serious matter since those
who are saved are those who believe the Word of God.
the Living God, the Messiah, declares that the Spirit of Truth will tell the elect
of things to come Jn. 16:13. the Holy Spirit filled David as we read
in Ps. 51:11. David knew of the Presence of this Divine Being and
spoke thus of Him way back in those days as do the apostles in the New
Testament. it is not as though the revelation of Himself to man as
recorded in Holy Scripture was done in secret. the authentic Word of
God has been around for thousands of years.
as the Holy Spirit declares through the Apostle Paul... " even if we or an angel
from Heaven preach a gospel to you beside what we preached to you, let
him be accursed. " Ga. 1:8
***********************************************************************
****************************
Ex 22:20 " He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the LORD alone, shall be
utterly destroyed. "

What can I say Joe? When you're right you're right. There is no such
deity as Allah. This is something we agree on.

Of course what you fail to comprehend is that Muslims consider themselves
to be descended from Abraham, just like the Jews, but from his other son,
Ishmael. They believe that the god they worship is the same god that you
worship. The difference is in the details.

You see Joe, Allah is just the Arabic word for God. When Maronite
Christians in Lebanon or Palestinian Christians in Jerusalem pray, they
pray to Allah. It's the same phoney deity that you pray to. The only
difference is the language they pray in.