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Yet another smack in the mouth for the Evolutionist's... the Miller - Urey experiment...
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unknown
2014-10-31 09:41:51 UTC
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/Exobiology/miller.html

according to this article we have an attempt to create life by probably well meaning but inept
scientist's hoping to find some way to show how life comes from things that are not alive. an
experiment not as ridiculous as saying life came from outer space... that mystical copout solution
employed when all else fails.

if they would have paused for a moment and concluded from their own ' science ' that nothing in and
of itself and no combination of the dead elements in the Periodic Table are alive they'd have
understood that life is not in things not alive ( duh ) and can not be made out of things not alive.

but boy's will be boy's and so they set up what from the outset was doomed to failure to answer the
question : " Where did life come from ? "

assumptions abound right from the start of their experiment. things that are not alive were hoped
to come alive by introducing a simulated lightning bolt in a closed system resembling supposed early
earth condition's... ( lightning and electricity is not alive nor is the air we breathe ) ... they
supposed that " early earth " is different than earth ( and it's elemental properties ) is today.

they failed to pause a moment and see that their pre-exisiting belief in chemical Evolution already
biased their thinking so that outcome would be in line with what all Atheists want... a universe and
living being's created through accident's in nature and not Almighty God.

coupling this idea with the idea that the earth was a different kind of environment billions of
years ago... that it was some kind of chemical factory working haphazardly churning out " all the
right stuff " so that in eon's past absolute sterility produces life from elements that are not
alive.

billions of years times dead elements equal dead elements that are still not alive today.
somehow, only in their thinking, does time bring what is not alive to life.

in their thinking the earth of today is not the same as the earth was yesterday. remember that
' yesterday, ' in their view, is counted in billions of years and not just over the 13000 years old
it really is...

the only thing that these fellow's have shown is that man's effort's to find how life came from
elements that are not alive are futile by their best concocted ' scientific ' experiments. all that
they could show is that no elements when mixed together produce other chemicals and out of sterility
no life is possible, especially in the environment of their experiments.

at least they knew enough not to put something alive into their little test tubes since it would
have been fried by the induced lightning bolts in their simulated primitive atmosphere and boiled to
death in their simulated boiling ocean. all they produced was exactly the folly of Evolution...
boiling oceans and burning atmosphere's do not produce life from elements that are not alive as the
Evolutionists tell us is true as they lie to us, and themselves.

yet, this is the Evolutionist's self-contradictory presuppositions : that non living elements
boiled and fried produce life. therefore, they set up their experiment in accordance with the
un-scientific idea of the Big Bang and Darwin's Evolution in view... two dead ends.

in review... ocean water is not alive; the atmosphere is not alive; lightning is not alive; a vacuum
is not alive; time is not alive and all of the elements of the Periodic Table are not alive... all
of which mean elements which are not alive do not magically bring nonliving elements to life even
when this early earth of their's cooled down. their re-definition of absolute sterility is just
another brainwashing ploy to convince themselves that no God results in no Judgement Day.

furthermore, we know the earth is just over thirteen thousand years old by the only Book which
accurately and truthfully records the universe and man's beginning. and the same Book tells
truthfully where life came from, and that book is the Bible, the infallible Word of God. life comes
from the Living God. life is not of this world... life is God... as He says... " I am... the life "
Jn.14:6

the lifespan's of certain men and events are recorded there in the Bible and from Adam to Christ we
know the earth is but eleven thousand and a few years old. we also know from the Bible that life
comes from the One who is Life, the Living God.
Ri
2014-11-01 13:23:18 UTC
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Post by unknown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment
http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/Exobiology/miller.html
according to this article we have an attempt to create life by probably well meaning but inept
scientist's hoping to find some way to show how life comes from things that are not alive. an
experiment not as ridiculous as saying life came from outer space... that mystical copout solution
employed when all else fails.
if they would have paused for a moment and concluded from their own ' science ' that nothing in and
of itself and no combination of the dead elements in the Periodic Table are alive they'd have
understood that life is not in things not alive ( duh ) and can not be made out of things not alive.
but boy's will be boy's and so they set up what from the outset was doomed to failure to answer the
question : " Where did life come from ? "
assumptions abound right from the start of their experiment. things that are not alive were hoped
to come alive by introducing a simulated lightning bolt in a closed system resembling supposed early
earth condition's... ( lightning and electricity is not alive nor is the air we breathe ) ... they
supposed that " early earth " is different than earth ( and it's elemental properties ) is today.
they failed to pause a moment and see that their pre-exisiting belief in chemical Evolution already
biased their thinking so that outcome would be in line with what all Atheists want... a universe and
living being's created through accident's in nature and not Almighty God.
coupling this idea with the idea that the earth was a different kind of environment billions of
years ago... that it was some kind of chemical factory working haphazardly churning out " all the
right stuff " so that in eon's past absolute sterility produces life from elements that are not
alive.
billions of years times dead elements equal dead elements that are still not alive today.
somehow, only in their thinking, does time bring what is not alive to life.
in their thinking the earth of today is not the same as the earth was yesterday. remember that
' yesterday, ' in their view, is counted in billions of years and not just over the 13000 years old
it really is...
the only thing that these fellow's have shown is that man's effort's to find how life came from
elements that are not alive are futile by their best concocted ' scientific ' experiments. all that
they could show is that no elements when mixed together produce other chemicals and out of sterility
no life is possible, especially in the environment of their experiments.
at least they knew enough not to put something alive into their little test tubes since it would
have been fried by the induced lightning bolts in their simulated primitive atmosphere and boiled to
death in their simulated boiling ocean. all they produced was exactly the folly of Evolution...
boiling oceans and burning atmosphere's do not produce life from elements that are not alive as the
Evolutionists tell us is true as they lie to us, and themselves.
yet, this is the Evolutionist's self-contradictory presuppositions : that non living elements
boiled and fried produce life. therefore, they set up their experiment in accordance with the
un-scientific idea of the Big Bang and Darwin's Evolution in view... two dead ends.
in review... ocean water is not alive; the atmosphere is not alive; lightning is not alive; a vacuum
is not alive; time is not alive and all of the elements of the Periodic Table are not alive... all
of which mean elements which are not alive do not magically bring nonliving elements to life even
when this early earth of their's cooled down. their re-definition of absolute sterility is just
another brainwashing ploy to convince themselves that no God results in no Judgement Day.
furthermore, we know the earth is just over thirteen thousand years old by the only Book which
accurately and truthfully records the universe and man's beginning. and the same Book tells
truthfully where life came from, and that book is the Bible, the infallible Word of God. life comes
from the Living God. life is not of this world... life is God... as He says... " I am... the life "
Jn.14:6
the lifespan's of certain men and events are recorded there in the Bible and from Adam to Christ we
know the earth is but eleven thousand and a few years old. we also know from the Bible that life
comes from the One who is Life, the Living God.
As a scientist (biochemist to be exact) and a christian, I have got another idea.

In science, there is no split between non living elements and living elements. In fact, living element is well known from biochemists. We (i am biochemist) call living elements: biomolecules. And there a kind of God's work around this biomolecules. You have to know that biomolecules attempt to organize themselves. In real, biomolecules are able to make bigger biomolecules, and bigger, and bigger and bigger. For example, in the Urey and Miller experiment there is a gorgeous God's work. In this experiment, non living elements organize themselves to become biomolecules (amino acid in this case).

This God's work! Non living elements become living elements !!!!!!

So what...aminoacid are not living elements. Ok...your right. A tree is not a forest. In this case, go ahead in argumentation. With aminoacid created by God, we are in "pre biotic period" . This is not really living. But in the Urey and Miller experiment not only aminoacid is created (by God...Urey and Miller just see the phenomena). There was also ribose. Ribose is glucid embedded in DNA and RNA. So.....it begins to looks like living now !!!

I can understand that non scientists christians see all this things like atheists's doctrine. But I am christian! And in this phenomena i see God's work.

You have to know that non living elements can become living elements. This is God's work. We (the church) say that God is a living one. Why can't you see God's hand when you see it ?

I am willing to discution.
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