Discussion:
Yet another black eye for the Evolutionists : Celestial Navigation...
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old man joe
2011-03-11 11:21:32 UTC
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navigation by land and sea is as old as time. while traveling across land the ancient people used
topical features as well as the position of the sun at sun rise and sun set to calculate their
relative position between point a and point b.

when man put to sea in ancient times he used the star's to find his way from point a to point b in
featureless expansion's of the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea.

according to the Holy Scripture's, God set in the heavens the sun and the moon and the star's of
the night sky as " sign's. " ( Gen. 1:14-16 ) " sign's " is the same word translated " miracle. "

according to the Atheist / Evolutionist's, all of these fixed points in the sky all got there by
the Big Bang which magically set in order a perfectly ordered universe evolving man out of it from
monkey's by which these hybrid monkey's crossed land masses and sea's in their ships navigating by
the star's.

the Evolutionists say there is no center of the universe, which makes their idea of a Big Bang Big
Baloney. " the Big Bang happened everywhere at once, " they say. we wonder where they were
standing to observe and record this fantastic conclusion. Job. 38:4

nonetheless, an idea of a universe coming into being out of material these high thinker's can not
explain the origin of... out of chaos by their own conclusions posted all over the Internet, and
from chaos into a perfectly ordered universe is just a way of saying the science of Atheists need
God to have created the universe for it to be in the order it is in.

( unregenerate man is a chaotic being who finds order only in the thing's created by God... his body
work's in perfect order but his unregenerate mind is chaotic since he is
" without God " by God's perfect design for his daily existence without God. Job 5:7 )

the Big Bang idea, formulated by an Atheist Catholic priest no less, created the vacuum of space out
of an explosion. pretty neat trick to create a permanent vacuum out of an explosion.

getting back to the matter at hand, the Mazzaroth, or constellations as it is known, have not only
stood in their place since the first day of God's placing them in the heavens, but also they are
witnesses to the gospel spoken to Abraham and Job by God telling them of the coming Messiah by the
teaching tool's of the star's in the night sky.

the reprobate's use these star's in their mystic art's but God uses the star's of His creation as
messenger's of the gospel to this day. the reprobates profane everything they touch and use it as
so instructed by Satan their god ( Jn. 8:43,44 ) while a careful study of this doctrine will reveal
to the serious student what people have known since Seth... that the Mazzaroth, which the reprobates
call the Zodiac, is the gospel in the star's beforehand preached to the patriarchs of the coming
Messiah. ( see Ro. 10:17,18 cp. Ps. 19:1-6 with Col. 1:6,23 and Job 38 )

the Atheist's are guilty of rejecting the gospel also by reason of perverting the Mazzaroth into
heathen sign's of the Zodiac.

the placement of all of the heavenly bodies by God are used as tool's of navigation for man to this
day... that these heavenly bodies just happened by chance to be in perfect order out of chaos, from
conclusions drawn by Atheists as to the origin of the universe, is utter nonsense. these Atheists
are the of same kind who claim my Thanksgiving turkey evolved from a dinosaur and then back into a
turkey.
raven1
2011-03-11 13:22:58 UTC
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:21:32 -0500, old man joe <***@home.001>
wrote:

"Wow, you're pretty fucking stupid, aren't you?" - Tim the Enchanter
Post by old man joe
navigation by land and sea is as old as time. while traveling across land the ancient people used
topical features as well as the position of the sun at sun rise and sun set to calculate their
relative position between point a and point b.
when man put to sea in ancient times he used the star's to find his way from point a to point b in
featureless expansion's of the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea.
according to the Holy Scripture's, God set in the heavens the sun and the moon and the star's of
the night sky as " sign's. " ( Gen. 1:14-16 ) " sign's " is the same word translated " miracle. "
according to the Atheist / Evolutionist's, all of these fixed points in the sky all got there by
the Big Bang which magically set in order a perfectly ordered universe evolving man out of it from
monkey's by which these hybrid monkey's crossed land masses and sea's in their ships navigating by
the star's.
the Evolutionists say there is no center of the universe, which makes their idea of a Big Bang Big
Baloney. " the Big Bang happened everywhere at once, " they say. we wonder where they were
standing to observe and record this fantastic conclusion. Job. 38:4
nonetheless, an idea of a universe coming into being out of material these high thinker's can not
explain the origin of... out of chaos by their own conclusions posted all over the Internet, and
from chaos into a perfectly ordered universe is just a way of saying the science of Atheists need
God to have created the universe for it to be in the order it is in.
( unregenerate man is a chaotic being who finds order only in the thing's created by God... his body
work's in perfect order but his unregenerate mind is chaotic since he is
" without God " by God's perfect design for his daily existence without God. Job 5:7 )
the Big Bang idea, formulated by an Atheist Catholic priest no less, created the vacuum of space out
of an explosion. pretty neat trick to create a permanent vacuum out of an explosion.
getting back to the matter at hand, the Mazzaroth, or constellations as it is known, have not only
stood in their place since the first day of God's placing them in the heavens, but also they are
witnesses to the gospel spoken to Abraham and Job by God telling them of the coming Messiah by the
teaching tool's of the star's in the night sky.
the reprobate's use these star's in their mystic art's but God uses the star's of His creation as
messenger's of the gospel to this day. the reprobates profane everything they touch and use it as
so instructed by Satan their god ( Jn. 8:43,44 ) while a careful study of this doctrine will reveal
to the serious student what people have known since Seth... that the Mazzaroth, which the reprobates
call the Zodiac, is the gospel in the star's beforehand preached to the patriarchs of the coming
Messiah. ( see Ro. 10:17,18 cp. Ps. 19:1-6 with Col. 1:6,23 and Job 38 )
the Atheist's are guilty of rejecting the gospel also by reason of perverting the Mazzaroth into
heathen sign's of the Zodiac.
the placement of all of the heavenly bodies by God are used as tool's of navigation for man to this
day... that these heavenly bodies just happened by chance to be in perfect order out of chaos, from
conclusions drawn by Atheists as to the origin of the universe, is utter nonsense. these Atheists
are the of same kind who claim my Thanksgiving turkey evolved from a dinosaur and then back into a
turkey.
Ken
2011-03-11 16:01:19 UTC
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How about YOU taking up this simple challenge?
Prove that your imaginary creatordog exists!
Why is it so hard for your creatiioNUTS to show us some/any real
proof, real evidence?

BTW--Quotes from your fairy tale book DOES NOT COUNT as evidence any
more that pictures from a comic book is evidence that Superman exists
Mark Evans
2011-03-12 03:34:26 UTC
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Post by Ken
How about YOU taking up this simple challenge?
Prove that your imaginary creatordog exists!
Why is it so hard for your creatiioNUTS to show us some/any real
proof, real evidence?
BTW--Quotes from your fairy tale book DOES NOT COUNT as evidence any
more that pictures from a comic book is evidence that Superman exists
Actually, we got photos of Superman in addition to the drawings.

Mark Evans
Father Haskell
2011-03-12 03:45:34 UTC
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Post by Mark Evans
Post by Ken
How about YOU taking up this simple challenge?
Prove that your imaginary creatordog exists!
Why is it so hard for your creatiioNUTS to show us some/any real
proof, real evidence?
BTW--Quotes from your fairy tale book DOES NOT COUNT as evidence any
more that pictures from a comic book is evidence that Superman exists
Actually, we got photos of Superman in addition to the drawings.
Mark Evans
If, as according to legend, Superman was jewish, did
his circumcision break the mohel's scalpel, same as
any attempt to cut his hair breaks the scissors?
raven1
2011-03-12 04:13:32 UTC
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:45:34 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Mark Evans
Post by Ken
How about YOU taking up this simple challenge?
Prove that your imaginary creatordog exists!
Why is it so hard for your creatiioNUTS to show us some/any real
proof, real evidence?
BTW--Quotes from your fairy tale book DOES NOT COUNT as evidence any
more that pictures from a comic book is evidence that Superman exists
Actually, we got photos of Superman in addition to the drawings.
Mark Evans
If, as according to legend, Superman was jewish, did
his circumcision break the mohel's scalpel, same as
any attempt to cut his hair breaks the scissors?
Probably not, he would have been circumcised before he left Krypton.
big john whine
2011-03-13 04:52:17 UTC
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Post by Father Haskell
Post by Mark Evans
Post by Ken
How about YOU taking up this simple challenge?
Prove that your imaginary creatordog exists!
Why is it so hard for your creatiioNUTS to show us some/any real
proof, real evidence?
BTW--Quotes from your fairy tale book DOES NOT COUNT as evidence any
more that pictures from a comic book is evidence that Superman exists
Actually, we got photos of Superman in addition to the drawings.
Mark Evans
If, as according to legend, Superman was jewish, did
his circumcision break the mohel's scalpel, same as
any attempt to cut his hair breaks the scissors?
you don't even know shit about superman.
Kadaitcha Man
2011-03-13 07:06:19 UTC
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Post by big john whine
you don't even know shit about superman.
So you're big on superman's shit?
--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.atheism.
Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk.

alt.atheism atheist to Kadaitcha Man:
"Imagine if I were to suggest "I have a prehensile tail". You
would, naturally, ask for evidence."

Kadaitcha Man in reply to alt.atheism atheist:
"Not at all. I would unquestionably accept your admission to being
a monkey."

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
big john whine
2011-03-14 17:07:54 UTC
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Post by big john whine
you don't even know shit about superman.
So you're big on superman's shit?
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what was yer name before you changed it?

not only are you an ignorant sounding little f*ck...
if englisch is yer first language, you
should go back and review.
Kadaitcha Man
2011-03-15 09:13:38 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by big john whine
you don't even know shit about superman.
So you're big on superman's shit?
***************************
what was yer name before you changed it?
not only are you an ignorant sounding little f*ck...
if englisch is yer first language, you
should go back and review.
I take that as a yes.
--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.atheism.
Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk.

alt.atheism atheist to Kadaitcha Man:
"Imagine if I were to suggest "I have a prehensile tail". You
would, naturally, ask for evidence."

Kadaitcha Man in reply to alt.atheism atheist:
"Not at all. I would unquestionably accept your admission to being
a monkey."

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
JimmyJohn
2011-03-11 20:25:12 UTC
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Post by old man joe
according to the Holy Scripture's, God set in the heavens the sun
and the moon and the star's of the night sky as " sign's. "
So you are selling astrology?
--
Science is based directly on objective physical evidence,
and nothing that is not based directly on objective physical evidence
can be science.
sy db
2011-03-12 04:15:32 UTC
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Post by JimmyJohn
Science is based directly on objective physical evidence,
and nothing that is not based directly on objective physical evidence
can be science.
What is 'physical'?
Isn't the phrase 'physical evidence' redundant within science?
bpuharic
2011-03-11 20:42:00 UTC
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Post by old man joe
according to the Atheist / Evolutionist's, all of these fixed points in the sky all got there by
the Big Bang which magically set in order a perfectly ordered universe evolving man out of it from
monkey's by which these hybrid monkey's crossed land masses and sea's in their ships navigating by
the star's.
uh...evolution has NOTHING to do with the big bang. the big bang was
developed by a catholic priest in the mid 20's. evolution was
developed 60 years earlier

where the hell do you get your bizarre ideas from? they're ALWAYS
wrong and SO easy to prove wrong. why not come up with a better class
of lies?
Post by old man joe
the Evolutionists say there is no center of the universe, which makes their idea of a Big Bang Big
Baloney. " the Big Bang happened everywhere at once, " they say. we wonder where they were
standing to observe and record this fantastic conclusion. Job. 38:4
we can SEE the evidence TODAY in teh background radiation

but creationists dont even know what STARS are or GALAXIES...let alone
the background radiation. they had NO idea these existed

creationists had a 2000 year head start on science

and told us NOTHING about the unvierse. nothing
Post by old man joe
the Big Bang idea, formulated by an Atheist Catholic priest no less, created the vacuum of space out
of an explosion. pretty neat trick to create a permanent vacuum out of an explosion.
an atheist catholic priest?? you mean the guy who was received by the
pope after his theory was published?

some atheist!

creationsits worship the god of ignorance. to a creationist, it's more
important that humans reject knowledge than it is for them to learn
truth
big john whine
2011-03-13 04:50:57 UTC
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"creationsits worship the god of ignorance. to a creationist, it's
more
important that humans reject knowledge than it is for them to learn
truth " - bpuharic
***************************
the truth is a tiger these days.
on the internet you have lies given full equality.
extra rights, even.
most ppl would do better not 'harping'
about supposed truth.
common sense would be a better place to start.
unless somebody or something kicks them in the ass first.
or maybe the sudden shock is better with a wider gap.
JohnN
2011-03-12 03:34:41 UTC
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navigation by land and sea is as old as time.  while traveling across land the ancient people used
topical features as well as the position of the sun at sun rise and sun set to calculate their
relative position between point a and point b.  
according to the Holy Scripture's,  God set in the heavens the sun and the moon and the star's of
the night sky as " sign's. "  ( Gen. 1:14-16 )  " sign's " is the same word translated " miracle. "
So the sun, the moon, and stars are signs your god put in the sky to
aid navigation. If so, why did Moses wander in the desert for 40
years? Did your god forget to give Moses the instruction manual?

I know the real reason: being a man, Moses simply refused to ask
direction.

JohnN
Father Haskell
2011-03-12 03:47:16 UTC
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navigation by land and sea is as old as time.  while traveling across land the ancient people used
topical features as well as the position of the sun at sun rise and sun set to calculate their
relative position between point a and point b.  
when man put to sea in ancient times he used the star's to find his way from point a to point b in
featureless expansion's of the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea.
according to the Holy Scripture's,  God set in the heavens the sun and the moon and the star's of
the night sky as " sign's. "  ( Gen. 1:14-16 )  " sign's " is the same word translated " miracle. "
according to the Atheist / Evolutionist's,  all of these fixed points in the sky all got there by
the Big Bang which magically set in order a perfectly ordered universe evolving man out of it from
monkey's by which these hybrid monkey's crossed land masses and sea's in their ships navigating by
the star's.
the Evolutionists say there is no center of the universe, which makes their idea of a Big Bang Big
Baloney.  " the Big Bang happened everywhere at once, " they say.  we wonder where they were
standing to observe and record this fantastic conclusion.  Job. 38:4
nonetheless,  an idea of a universe coming into being out of material these high thinker's can not
explain the origin of... out of chaos by their own conclusions posted all over the Internet, and
from chaos into a perfectly ordered universe is just a way of saying the science of Atheists need
God to have created the universe for it to be in the order it is in.
( unregenerate man is a chaotic being who finds order only in the thing's created by God... his body
work's in perfect order but his unregenerate mind is chaotic since he is
" without God " by God's perfect design for his daily existence without God.  Job 5:7 )
the Big Bang idea, formulated by an Atheist Catholic priest no less, created the vacuum of space out
of an explosion.  pretty neat trick to create a permanent vacuum out of an explosion.
getting back to the matter at hand, the Mazzaroth, or constellations as it is known, have not only
stood in their place since the first day of God's placing them in the heavens, but also they are
witnesses to the gospel spoken to Abraham and Job by God telling them of the coming Messiah by the
teaching tool's of the star's in the night sky.
the reprobate's use these star's in their mystic art's but God uses the star's of His creation as
messenger's of the gospel to this day.  the reprobates profane everything they touch and use it as
so instructed by Satan their god ( Jn. 8:43,44 ) while a careful study of this doctrine will reveal
to the serious student what people have known since Seth... that the Mazzaroth, which the reprobates
call the Zodiac, is the gospel in the star's beforehand preached to the patriarchs of the coming
Messiah.  ( see Ro. 10:17,18 cp. Ps. 19:1-6 with Col. 1:6,23 and Job 38 )
the Atheist's are guilty of rejecting the gospel also by reason of perverting the Mazzaroth into
heathen sign's of the Zodiac.
the placement of all of the heavenly bodies by God are used as tool's of navigation for man to this
day... that these heavenly bodies just happened by chance to be in perfect order out of chaos, from
conclusions drawn by Atheists as to the origin of the universe, is utter nonsense.  these Atheists
are the of same kind who claim my Thanksgiving turkey evolved from a dinosaur and then back into a
turkey.
So why do we need GPS?
AllSeeing-I
2011-03-12 04:57:29 UTC
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navigation by land and sea is as old as time.  while traveling across land the ancient people used
topical features as well as the position of the sun at sun rise and sun set to calculate their
relative position between point a and point b.  
when man put to sea in ancient times he used the star's to find his way from point a to point b in
featureless expansion's of the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea.
according to the Holy Scripture's,  God set in the heavens the sun and the moon and the star's of
the night sky as " sign's. "  ( Gen. 1:14-16 )  " sign's " is the same word translated " miracle. "
according to the Atheist / Evolutionist's,  all of these fixed points in the sky all got there by
the Big Bang which magically set in order a perfectly ordered universe evolving man out of it from
monkey's by which these hybrid monkey's crossed land masses and sea's in their ships navigating by
the star's.
the Evolutionists say there is no center of the universe, which makes their idea of a Big Bang Big
Baloney.  " the Big Bang happened everywhere at once, " they say.  we wonder where they were
standing to observe and record this fantastic conclusion.  Job. 38:4
nonetheless,  an idea of a universe coming into being out of material these high thinker's can not
explain the origin of... out of chaos by their own conclusions posted all over the Internet, and
from chaos into a perfectly ordered universe is just a way of saying the science of Atheists need
God to have created the universe for it to be in the order it is in.
( unregenerate man is a chaotic being who finds order only in the thing's created by God... his body
work's in perfect order but his unregenerate mind is chaotic since he is
" without God " by God's perfect design for his daily existence without God.  Job 5:7 )
the Big Bang idea, formulated by an Atheist Catholic priest no less, created the vacuum of space out
of an explosion.  pretty neat trick to create a permanent vacuum out of an explosion.
getting back to the matter at hand, the Mazzaroth, or constellations as it is known, have not only
stood in their place since the first day of God's placing them in the heavens, but also they are
witnesses to the gospel spoken to Abraham and Job by God telling them of the coming Messiah by the
teaching tool's of the star's in the night sky.
the reprobate's use these star's in their mystic art's but God uses the star's of His creation as
messenger's of the gospel to this day.  the reprobates profane everything they touch and use it as
so instructed by Satan their god ( Jn. 8:43,44 ) while a careful study of this doctrine will reveal
to the serious student what people have known since Seth... that the Mazzaroth, which the reprobates
call the Zodiac, is the gospel in the star's beforehand preached to the patriarchs of the coming
Messiah.  ( see Ro. 10:17,18 cp. Ps. 19:1-6 with Col. 1:6,23 and Job 38 )
the Atheist's are guilty of rejecting the gospel also by reason of perverting the Mazzaroth into
heathen sign's of the Zodiac.
the placement of all of the heavenly bodies by God are used as tool's of navigation for man to this
day... that these heavenly bodies just happened by chance to be in perfect order out of chaos, from
conclusions drawn by Atheists as to the origin of the universe, is utter nonsense.  these Atheists
are the of same kind who claim my Thanksgiving turkey evolved from a dinosaur and then back into a
turkey.
The Sumerians said that the planets revolve around the sun.

Neptune was blue green in color. Uranus was bright green, sideways in
it's orbit, and was struck by another planet which caused it's strange
orbit.

There also knew there were 10 planets

I think modern science was just getting around to discovering Pluto --
around 1910

ha ha ha !

But they can tell us ALL about man's origins! BWAhahahah!!! megabytes
of laughter!

NOT!


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bpuharic
2011-03-12 12:17:05 UTC
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:57:29 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I
Post by AllSeeing-I
The Sumerians said that the planets revolve around the sun.
funny that creationists tried to kill galileo when HE said that.

you creationists cant even make up your own minds about what you
believe!
Post by AllSeeing-I
I think modern science was just getting around to discovering Pluto --
around 1910
ha ha ha !
gee. if that's the case why are there no sumerian computers?
antibiotics?

creationism is useless
Caranx latus
2011-03-12 12:40:11 UTC
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<snip>
Post by AllSeeing-I
The Sumerians said that the planets revolve around the sun.
Neptune was blue green in color. Uranus was bright green, sideways in
it's orbit, and was struck by another planet which caused it's strange
orbit.
There also knew there were 10 planets
Five, [M]adape. They knew about five planets. Sitchin wrote that they
knew about 10, and you believe him. He had no source for that claim.
None at all. He Made Shit Up.

<snip borderline hysteria>
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