Discussion:
God's will: Two aircraft collide over Hudson, killing everyone on board
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Ned Viking
2009-08-10 13:39:12 UTC
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When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.

Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board! If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths. It was God's will! God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.

In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God". The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing. The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash. America has a lot of bad
pilots.

I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
Woo
2009-08-10 19:08:38 UTC
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Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board!  If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths.  It was God's will!  God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God".  The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing.  The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash.  America has a lot of bad
pilots.
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
Yanks are getting fatter every day. Soon they won't have aircraft big
enough to lift them.
Father Haskell
2009-08-10 19:11:38 UTC
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Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board!  If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths.  It was God's will!  God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God".  The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing.  The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash.  America has a lot of bad
pilots.
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
I'd sooner trust John Travolta behind the
yoke of a 747 than god. Even after this:


St. Jackanapes
2009-08-12 03:40:12 UTC
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board!  If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths.  It was God's will!  God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God".  The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing.  The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash.  America has a lot of bad
pilots.
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
I'd sooner trust John Travolta behind the
http://youtu.be/cy3IkXrgv3I
I think that his big comb had some sort of Freudian meaning, but that's
off the topic. I agree with you, Father, I'd much rather have a half-wit
washed up Scientologist actor at the helm of my 747 than some retarded
Christian god with a dissociative identity disorder.

Look at the Christian god's flying record - he allowed not only one -
but TWO space shuttles and their brave crews to be atomized on his
watch!! I know that he's got to sleep sometime, but TWO SHUTTLES??? I
know that one shuttle had an Israeli Jew on board, but he's supposed to
be killing Commie Cosmonauts. He was doing a fine job during the cold
war. What's up?
--
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Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
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Greg.Procter
2009-08-12 03:55:20 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:40:12 +1200, St. Jackanapes
Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board!  If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths.  It was God's will!  God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God".  The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing.  The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash.  America has a lot of bad
pilots.
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
I'd sooner trust John Travolta behind the
http://youtu.be/cy3IkXrgv3I
I think that his big comb had some sort of Freudian meaning, but that's
off the topic. I agree with you, Father, I'd much rather have a half-wit
washed up Scientologist actor at the helm of my 747 than some retarded
Christian god with a dissociative identity disorder.
I'm only glad we're not forced to make that choice when we board airliners!
Post by St. Jackanapes
Look at the Christian god's flying record - he allowed not only one -
but TWO space shuttles and their brave crews to be atomized on his
watch!! I know that he's got to sleep sometime, but TWO SHUTTLES???
Seems rather too little to me - yanks still haven't learned to
distinguish between God and your President.
Post by St. Jackanapes
I
know that one shuttle had an Israeli Jew on board, but he's supposed to
be killing Commie Cosmonauts. He was doing a fine job during the cold
war. What's up?
Go reread your Bibles, God is on the Commie side.
<sheesh, you yanks are so gullible to your own propaganda>

Regards,
Greg.P.
St. Jackanapes
2009-08-12 08:15:30 UTC
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Greg.Procter wrote...
Post by Greg.Procter
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:40:12 +1200, St. Jackanapes
Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board!  If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths.  It was God's will!  God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God".  The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing.  The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash.  America has a lot of bad
pilots.
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
I'd sooner trust John Travolta behind the
http://youtu.be/cy3IkXrgv3I
I think that his big comb had some sort of Freudian meaning, but that's
off the topic. I agree with you, Father, I'd much rather have a half-wit
washed up Scientologist actor at the helm of my 747 than some retarded
Christian god with a dissociative identity disorder.
I'm only glad we're not forced to make that choice when we board airliners!
Post by St. Jackanapes
Look at the Christian god's flying record - he allowed not only one -
but TWO space shuttles and their brave crews to be atomized on his
watch!! I know that he's got to sleep sometime, but TWO SHUTTLES???
Seems rather too little to me - yanks still haven't learned to
distinguish between God and your President.
Obviously you're not living over here and are only watching the media
from afar. The media were the assholes who took the shrewd black
politician and turned him into the Messiah, our great Savior come to
deliver us all from the 8 years of EVIL Bushism, runaway spending,
neglect, an illegal war, lies, trying to legalize government
Christianity, and disconnecting the USA from the rest of the world.

Yes, Obama is a savior of sorts, but not what the way that the media was
reporting him to be for 5 months after the election. The US Media went
waaay overboard with the comparisons to the Kennedy's, Camelot, and
trying to impart to us Americans that Obama was some sort of heaven-sent
agent or saint come down to restore us to our prominence in the world.
Hogwash. He's just an intelligent man with excellent leadership and
communication skills. He is not the Messiah.

That's what you guys were seeing way down in your little corner of the
world. But I lived and breathed it here smack in the middle of it and
spoke with real people, not media talking heads, and along with just
about everyone else, I was sickened by the fawning, gushing media love
fest that was flowing from our TV screens. No wonder what's left of the
Republicans and the Right-Wing racists are seething with racist hate and
bile.
Post by Greg.Procter
Post by St. Jackanapes
I
know that one shuttle had an Israeli Jew on board, but he's supposed to
be killing Commie Cosmonauts. He was doing a fine job during the cold
war. What's up?
Go reread your Bibles, God is on the Commie side.
<sheesh, you yanks are so gullible to your own propaganda>
SSHHHH!!!!! QUIET YOU!!! For Christ's sake, that's a closely guarded
secret, don't you know? The Ultra Even though Jesus was sent to Earth
with the specific blueprint from Dad to start communal living - and
despite that it's in written in the New Testament in black & white &
Greek, the Gentiles weren't sold on that Commie part.

Once Paul/Saul realized that the Jews were about to skin his testicles
and the rest of his carcass for his blasphemous plans to allow gentiles
to skip circumcision, he skedaddled with his version of Jewish Jesusism
and peddled it to the capitalistic gentiles - but he softened up on the
commie bit. Otherwise it wouldn't sell.

American Christians are taught from the moment of twat expulsion that
the beloved Bible was written in a Holy Language that only God, his
Angels, and certain God-ordained white people can read. While they are
all required to display a huge Bible in their living rooms, they are not
expected to try and pain their little brains on the mind-boggeling deep
religious issues within - isn't that why they put money in the plate
every Sunday? So that the unmarried guy leering at the kids and running
the church can deal with all of that messy god/human interaction for
them.

They don't want to have to deal with a God - he might appear some Sunday
afternoon while you're doing the BBQ and ask you to kill one of your
kids or something. Fuck that - that's why we have pastors, priests, and
ministers. Keep that mad deity away from us! They just want to be left
alone to lead their selfish lives of debauchery & greed like good
Americans! I pay $10 on Sunday so that God will leave me be!
--
St. Jackanapes ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
-----------------------------------------------------------
A) http://www.jackanapes.ws B) http://www.voy.com/20630/
C) http://www.jackanapes.ws/graph/jesusHchrist.jpg
Greg.Procter
2009-08-12 22:38:44 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:15:30 +1200, St. Jackanapes
Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Greg.Procter wrote...
Post by Greg.Procter
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:40:12 +1200, St. Jackanapes
Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone
survived,
Post by St. Jackanapes
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board!  If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people
in
Post by St. Jackanapes
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths.  It was God's will!  God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God".  The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing.  The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash.  America has a lot of bad
pilots.
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If
God
Post by St. Jackanapes
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
I'd sooner trust John Travolta behind the
http://youtu.be/cy3IkXrgv3I
I think that his big comb had some sort of Freudian meaning, but
that's
Post by St. Jackanapes
off the topic. I agree with you, Father, I'd much rather have a
half-wit
Post by St. Jackanapes
washed up Scientologist actor at the helm of my 747 than some retarded
Christian god with a dissociative identity disorder.
I'm only glad we're not forced to make that choice when we board airliners!
Post by St. Jackanapes
Look at the Christian god's flying record - he allowed not only one -
but TWO space shuttles and their brave crews to be atomized on his
watch!! I know that he's got to sleep sometime, but TWO SHUTTLES???
Seems rather too little to me - yanks still haven't learned to
distinguish between God and your President.
Obviously you're not living over here and are only watching the media
from afar. The media were the assholes who took the shrewd black
politician and turned him into the Messiah, our great Savior come to
deliver us all from the 8 years of EVIL Bushism, runaway spending,
neglect, an illegal war, lies, trying to legalize government
Christianity, and disconnecting the USA from the rest of the world.
Yes, Obama is a savior of sorts, but not what the way that the media was
reporting him to be for 5 months after the election. The US Media went
waaay overboard with the comparisons to the Kennedy's, Camelot, and
trying to impart to us Americans that Obama was some sort of heaven-sent
agent or saint come down to restore us to our prominence in the world.
Hogwash. He's just an intelligent man with excellent leadership and
communication skills. He is not the Messiah.
That's what you guys were seeing way down in your little corner of the
world. But I lived and breathed it here smack in the middle of it and
spoke with real people, not media talking heads, and along with just
about everyone else, I was sickened by the fawning, gushing media love
fest that was flowing from our TV screens. No wonder what's left of the
Republicans and the Right-Wing racists are seething with racist hate and
bile.
Obama? I though Michael Jackson was your god/president!
The US affects us way down here - your economy collapses and ours drops
a few percent - You subsidise your dairy farmers to export milk products
and our 7% of the economy dairy industry stumbles - you threaten the USSR
with anihalation for the last 6 decades and you're threatening us.
Post by St. Jackanapes
Post by Greg.Procter
Post by St. Jackanapes
I
know that one shuttle had an Israeli Jew on board, but he's supposed
to
Post by St. Jackanapes
be killing Commie Cosmonauts. He was doing a fine job during the cold
war. What's up?
Go reread your Bibles, God is on the Commie side.
<sheesh, you yanks are so gullible to your own propaganda>
SSHHHH!!!!! QUIET YOU!!! For Christ's sake, that's a closely guarded
secret, don't you know? The Ultra Even though Jesus was sent to Earth
with the specific blueprint from Dad to start communal living - and
despite that it's in written in the New Testament in black & white &
Greek, the Gentiles weren't sold on that Commie part.
Once Paul/Saul realized that the Jews were about to skin his testicles
and the rest of his carcass for his blasphemous plans to allow gentiles
to skip circumcision, he skedaddled with his version of Jewish Jesusism
and peddled it to the capitalistic gentiles - but he softened up on the
commie bit. Otherwise it wouldn't sell.
American Christians are taught from the moment of twat expulsion that
the beloved Bible was written in a Holy Language that only God, his
Angels, and certain God-ordained white people can read. While they are
all required to display a huge Bible in their living rooms, they are not
expected to try and pain their little brains on the mind-boggeling deep
religious issues within - isn't that why they put money in the plate
every Sunday? So that the unmarried guy leering at the kids and running
the church can deal with all of that messy god/human interaction for
them.
They don't want to have to deal with a God - he might appear some Sunday
afternoon while you're doing the BBQ and ask you to kill one of your
kids or something. Fuck that - that's why we have pastors, priests, and
ministers. Keep that mad deity away from us! They just want to be left
alone to lead their selfish lives of debauchery & greed like good
Americans! I pay $10 on Sunday so that God will leave me be!
They're like street performers, give them money and you encourage them
to be back next sunday.!
Father Haskell
2009-08-15 19:15:25 UTC
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Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board!  If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths.  It was God's will!  God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God".  The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing.  The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash.  America has a lot of bad
pilots.
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
I'd sooner trust John Travolta behind the
http://youtu.be/cy3IkXrgv3I
I think that his big comb had some sort of Freudian meaning, but that's
off the topic. I agree with you, Father, I'd much rather have a half-wit
washed up Scientologist actor at the helm of my 747 than some retarded
Christian god with a dissociative identity disorder.
With Horschack as navigator.
Post by St. Jackanapes
Look at the Christian god's flying record - he allowed not only one -
but TWO space shuttles and their brave crews to be atomized on his
watch!! I know that he's got to sleep sometime, but TWO SHUTTLES??? I
know that one shuttle had an Israeli Jew on board, but he's supposed to
be killing Commie Cosmonauts. He was doing a fine job during the cold
war. What's up?
Putting an Israeli jew onboard was the perfect
coverup.
Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Oher
2009-08-17 14:11:45 UTC
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You have become the enemy you claim to hate. Is it any surprise your
tribal gods should turn against you?
Post by St. Jackanapes
In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Father Haskell wrote...
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board!  If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths.  It was God's will!  God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God".  The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing.  The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash.  America has a lot of bad
pilots.
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
I'd sooner trust John Travolta behind the
http://youtu.be/cy3IkXrgv3I
I think that his big comb had some sort of Freudian meaning, but that's
off the topic. I agree with you, Father, I'd much rather have a half-wit
washed up Scientologist actor at the helm of my 747 than some retarded
Christian god with a dissociative identity disorder.
Look at the Christian god's flying record - he allowed not only one -
but TWO space shuttles and their brave crews to be atomized on his
watch!! I know that he's got to sleep sometime, but TWO SHUTTLES??? I
know that one shuttle had an Israeli Jew on board, but he's supposed to
be killing Commie Cosmonauts. He was doing a fine job during the cold
war. What's up?
--
St. Jackanapes ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
-----------------------------------------------------------
A)http://www.jackanapes.wsB)http://www.voy.com/20630/
   C)http://www.jackanapes.ws/graph/jesusHchrist.jpg
old man joe
2009-08-12 17:24:05 UTC
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Post by Ned Viking
When a pilot landed a plane on the Hudson River and everyone survived,
idiotic Bible-thumpers claimed it's "proof of a higher power", that
"God" saved all the people.
proof of a Higher Power is in Creation; in the Word of God the Bible; human
conscience since He made Himself known to everyone ( Ro. 1:18-21 ) and when you and
all God haters will meet Him on Judgement Day.
Post by Ned Viking
Recently two aircraft collided over the Hudson, killing everyone on
board! If you're going to give "God" credit for saving the people in
the other incident, you have to give "God" the blame for all the
deaths. It was God's will! God had the power to save them, so He
must have wished them all to die.
blame ? its His Creation and He does with it what He pleases and " none can stay
His hand. " Da. 4:35

the tsunami which killed so many people a few years ago came from God also...
Ez. 14:12-20
Post by Ned Viking
In reality, it's the pilots who control the planes, not "God". The
pilot should get the credit for the successful landing. The pilots
should be blamed for the recent crash. America has a lot of bad
pilots.
even if there was no God the pilots do not ' control the plane ' since birds get
sucked into the engines which is out of the pilots hands... bad weather brings down
planes all the while the pilot is ' in control; ' instruments do not always work...
ground crews are told not to spend a lot of the company's money on maintenance and
the pilot is only human who is physically subject to all the pitfalls of human
frailties.
Post by Ned Viking
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
this statement makes no sense... you can just as well say... " if God had intended
people to move across the ground at great speed He'd have given them wheels instead
of feet.
Sarah Ehrett
2009-08-12 20:25:06 UTC
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Post by old man joe
Post by Ned Viking
I'll admit it's fun to say after a plane or helicopter crash: "If God
had intended for people to fly, He would have given them wings!"
this statement makes no sense... you can just as well say... " if God had intended
people to move across the ground at great speed He'd have given them wheels instead
of feet.
old man joe,

You are responding to an anti-semite nutter name3 Michael Poulis who
is mad at the world because he got bounced from the Navy because of
his own incompetence and then lost his "job" to an offshore boiler
room staffed by foreigners. Ignore the fool.
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