Huh ! Now Natgeo channel think themselves Bible expositor's... saying no proof of Jesus Christ exists...

[old man joe]

the arrogance and pomp of Atheism extends itself to channel's such as Natgeo. they
actually air the sentence ( against themselves ) that there is no proof of the existence
of Jesus Christ; Emmanuel... " God with us. "

the people at Natgeo are looking in the wrong place as might be suspected. as with all
those cut from the same cloth, they're trying to dig up some archeological evidence to
find some mention of Christ Jesus. they haven't heard that He is risen. nonetheless,
these expose themselves as the liar's since overwhelming evidence of the existence of
Jesus Christ is found in the Bible. the Living God's signature is in Creation as well as
their conscience.

in the realm of Atheism it's common for it's adherent's to use the Bible as a weapon
against God and from it try desperately to prove there is no God... just as they use the
thing's of Creation as a ammunition against God trying and prove Evolution from it. this
is utterly laughable.

the appearance of Christ face to face with man which has taken place nearly 2000 years ago
did not profit anyone whom He did not elect unto salvation. His many follower's in those
days, as now, were turned away when He said that following Him can be only if the Living
God selected them that they should, as we read in John chapter six.

obviously, the people at Natgeo are not.

this being the case, if Noah's ark was found it would not convince an Atheist that God
exist's anymore than His Creation convinces an Atheist that He exists, nor their
conscience.

finding the Ark of the Covenant would not convince an Atheist that God exists anymore than
the base of the Temple of Solomon does because it exists today. existing today is the
Word of God, the Bible, and since God talks all about the condition of darkness in the
minds of the unsaved and the wrath of God against them there in the Bible, they themselves
are living proof of Almighty God still working life and death today. Heb. 4:12

the elect of God know this while those passed by do not. wonderfully, God has so arranged
thing's that their rejection of Him defines His existence just as the belief which comes
after salvation given by Him defines His existence just as we read in John 17.

the arrogance of the haughty is a cover up for their inability in the Holy Scriptures.
raising their fists against the Living God is as close to the resurrection unto life as
they will ever come.

[Sla#s]

Post by old man joe
the arrogance and pomp of Atheism extends itself to channel's such as
Natgeo. they actually air the sentence ( against themselves ) that
there is no proof of the existence of Jesus Christ; Emmanuel... " God
with us. "
the people at Natgeo are looking in the wrong place as might be
suspected. as with all those cut from the same cloth, they're trying
to dig up some archeological evidence to find some mention of Christ
Jesus. they haven't heard that He is risen.

Well don't you think that would have been newsworthy? Yet there is
absolutely nothing in the contemporary historical record.

File under 'Myth'.

Slatts

[Free Lunch]

Post by old man joe
the arrogance and pomp of Atheism extends itself to channel's such as Natgeo. they
actually air the sentence ( against themselves ) that there is no proof of the existence
of Jesus Christ; Emmanuel... " God with us. "

That is because there is no such evidence. Those who claim their is have
the duty to back up their claims with evidence, something that they fail
to do.

Post by old man joe
the people at Natgeo are looking in the wrong place as might be suspected. as with all
those cut from the same cloth, they're trying to dig up some archeological evidence to
find some mention of Christ Jesus. they haven't heard that He is risen. nonetheless,
these expose themselves as the liar's since overwhelming evidence of the existence of
Jesus Christ is found in the Bible. the Living God's signature is in Creation as well as
their conscience.
in the realm of Atheism it's common for it's adherent's to use the Bible as a weapon
against God and from it try desperately to prove there is no God... just as they use the
thing's of Creation as a ammunition against God trying and prove Evolution from it. this
is utterly laughable.
the appearance of Christ face to face with man which has taken place nearly 2000 years ago
did not profit anyone whom He did not elect unto salvation. His many follower's in those
days, as now, were turned away when He said that following Him can be only if the Living
God selected them that they should, as we read in John chapter six.
obviously, the people at Natgeo are not.
this being the case, if Noah's ark was found it would not convince an Atheist that God
exist's anymore than His Creation convinces an Atheist that He exists, nor their
conscience.
finding the Ark of the Covenant would not convince an Atheist that God exists anymore than
the base of the Temple of Solomon does because it exists today. existing today is the
Word of God, the Bible, and since God talks all about the condition of darkness in the
minds of the unsaved and the wrath of God against them there in the Bible, they themselves
are living proof of Almighty God still working life and death today. Heb. 4:12
the elect of God know this while those passed by do not. wonderfully, God has so arranged
thing's that their rejection of Him defines His existence just as the belief which comes
after salvation given by Him defines His existence just as we read in John 17.
the arrogance of the haughty is a cover up for their inability in the Holy Scriptures.
raising their fists against the Living God is as close to the resurrection unto life as
they will ever come.

[Erwin Moller]

See subject.


From former 'communications' with Joe, named:
"If Old man Joe never reads/answers other people's replies, why does he
post so much?"

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:25:54 +0100, Erwin Moller

Nothing else to add.
Erwin Moller

He is a religious delusional idiot unable to think?

greetings...

Heee wow! Old man Joe responding. :-)

Hi Joe,

I have a few questions for you.
I hope you, or Old man Joe, can find some time to answer them.

old man joe does in fact answer a post every now and again. he even

suggests to some to

ping him if clarification is needed. he posts to many other groups

besides these.


Why do you talk about yourself in the third person?
Wouldn't the first person make more sense?
Or are you somebody else?
I am all confused now.
It would be nice and honest to let us all know who we are dealing with:
Old man Joe or somebody else.

I checked your headers, and the original posting and this one seem to
come from the same place, so it seems you are the one and the same
computer, using Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American).

the point that omj is making when he does post, which is often, is

for interested parties

to search out the Scriptures to see if these things be so... or go

search the world of

Evolution and see if those things be so.

But don't you consider that spam?
Old man Joe is posting a LOT to MANY newsgroups at once.

Posting en masse without dealing with all responses is typically spam.
It is a one-way traffic.
And that makes it very uninteresting for the receivers of the meassages.

This is usenet, discussiongroups. We DISCUSS.
Just posting a few holy scriptures, then piss on science, and run away
is NOT POLITE.

Can you agree to that?

I hope you would just post ONE of your ideas, and discuss/defend them.
Give it some depth.
Test your ideas.
This is all so superflicial....

Can you agree to that?

however, some people are so vile that a conversation can not be had.

Simple: ignore them.
Any idiot can post here.

But using usenet as a place to post your ideas in a unidirectional
manner isn't the solution.
Rules are simple: Ignore stupid responses and namecalling, and pay
attention to more sincere responses.

In defense of the namecallers I would like to say that they probably
started out more friendly, but grew tired of creationists running away.
We see that happening all the time here.
So please have a little understanding for that.

other's, like the catholic groups he posts to, are so deep into

heresy and so Scripturally

ignorant that all one can do is feed them Bible facts if perhaps God

will grant them

repentance.

My dear Old Man Joe: You are posting to:
alt.talk.creationism
alt.christnet.calvinist
alt.religion.clergy
alt.recovery.fundamentalism
alt.religion.christian.lutheran
alt.religion.end-times.prophecies
alt.religion.christian.presbyterian
alt.agnosticism
alt.athiesm <-- Is that for real?
alt.flame.jesus.christ
alt.atheism

Now think about that.
Do you seriously expect all the users of these groups to agree with you?
To simply swallow what you present them?
For example: Do you seriously expect people in alt.atheism to start
believing in god(s) because you post some pieces of scripture?

--> THIS ISN'T WORKING OLD MAN JOE <--

If you want to save souls or something like that, you must really reach
out more.
You must start with understanding WHY people think what they think.

Do you understand and agree to what I am saying/asking?

as far as atheist groups are concerned, these are incapable in the

Scriptures since

atheists are " without God, " turned away by God to understand the

basic tenants of

anything in the Bible... " For the word of the cross is foolishness

to those who are

perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. " 1

Cor. 1:18
No, atheists are not 'turned away by god'.
How can you turn away from something that you is not there in your mind?

Atheist have a very different approach. It would help you a lot to
understand them better. They are not idiots, you know.

lastly, why would someone like yourself, who calls omj a " religious

delusional idiot "

ever expect to get a reply ? i'd be sinning to cast pearls to swine

and give what is holy

to dogs. Mt. 7:6

I guess that one is for 'default', since I cannot remember calling you
that (but possibly I did. I hate newsgroup spamming.).

So let's get to the core of this all: What is you/old man joe has to say?
And also important: To which audience?
Atheist?
Theists of the wrong conviction?

This is important.
I for example can be considered an atheist, and I don't care too much
for theist fighting each other over the interpretation of a piece of
scripture from a book I don't take seriously.

On the other hand: Religious guy from conviction X might not be too
interested in a discussion between you and me about the existance of god.

So you might want to shorten that crossposting list a little.

Do you agree Old Man Joe? Do I make sense (for an atheist that is)?

Regards,
Erwin Moller

[St. Jackanapes]

Inalt.flame.jesus.christ, Erwin Moller said...

Post by Erwin Moller

however, some people are so vile that a conversation can not be had.

Simple: ignore them.
Any idiot can post here.

There's a reason that that OTJ gets so many vile responses - because
he's a spammer! He would find out that if he would do as Erwin Moller
has suggested, the amount of vile responses would go way down. I'm one
of those who makes vile replies to OTJ - if he were a good Usenetizen I
know I'd treat him differently -

EXCEPT: OTJ is deliberately asking for those vile responses - he *wants*
them. That is why he goes out of his way to include
alt.flame.jesus.christ is all of his crossposts. So his complaint is yet
another OTJ lie.

[TimK]

Post by old man joe
the arrogance and pomp of Atheism extends itself to channel's such as Natgeo. they
actually air the sentence ( against themselves ) that there is no proof of the existence
of Jesus Christ; Emmanuel... " God with us. "
the people at Natgeo are looking in the wrong place as might be suspected.
as with all
those cut from the same cloth, they're trying to dig up some archeological evidence to
find some mention of Christ Jesus. they haven't heard that He is risen.
nonetheless,
these expose themselves as the liar's since overwhelming evidence of the existence of
Jesus Christ is found in the Bible. the Living God's signature is in Creation as well as
their conscience.
in the realm of Atheism it's common for it's adherent's to use the Bible as a weapon
against God and from it try desperately to prove there is no God... just as they use the
thing's of Creation as a ammunition against God trying and prove Evolution from it. this
is utterly laughable.
the appearance of Christ face to face with man which has taken place nearly 2000 years ago
did not profit anyone whom He did not elect unto salvation. His many follower's in those
days, as now, were turned away when He said that following Him can be only if the Living
God selected them that they should, as we read in John chapter six.
obviously, the people at Natgeo are not.
this being the case, if Noah's ark was found it would not convince an Atheist that God
exist's anymore than His Creation convinces an Atheist that He exists, nor their
conscience.
finding the Ark of the Covenant would not convince an Atheist that God exists anymore than
the base of the Temple of Solomon does because it exists today. existing today is the
Word of God, the Bible, and since God talks all about the condition of darkness in the
minds of the unsaved and the wrath of God against them there in the Bible, they themselves
are living proof of Almighty God still working life and death today. Heb. 4:12
the elect of God know this while those passed by do not. wonderfully, God has so arranged
thing's that their rejection of Him defines His existence just as the belief which comes
after salvation given by Him defines His existence just as we read in John 17.
the arrogance of the haughty is a cover up for their inability in the Holy Scriptures.
raising their fists against the Living God is as close to the resurrection unto life as
they will ever come.

Hey Joe, God spoke to me - he told me to tell you to start capitalizing the
first letters or words that begin sentences, you damned moron.