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My Thanksgiving turkey was once a dinosaur according to the Atheist / Evolutionists !
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old man joe
2009-11-23 22:09:45 UTC
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huh. what a waist of electrons posting the word " Thanksgiving " to Atheist /
Evolutionists newsgroups.

nonetheless, the laughter continues... Natgeo. channel / Science channel actually has
their own kind making fools out of themselves with their usual cartoon shows featuring
Tom Turkey.

they go on to say Tom was once Tom Turkey, who ' evolved ' into a dinosaur, and then
' evolved ' back into Tom Turkey again. needless to say, their ' proof ' of this amazing
transformation is a cartoon show. this was not possible decades ago, as it is today, with
the advent of powerful computer's and computer graphic manipulation.

by using these cartoons they're able to convince the gullible that they came from
monkey's. the gullible never question these cartoon shows which look to them as true...
they eat it right up.

hey Atheist / Evolutionists, where did the monkey come from ? and where did the monkey's
progenitor's come from, and their progenitor's come from ?... all the way back to
elements that are not alive ? must be magic for a bunch of none living elements to give
themselves life... and eventually be my Thanksgiving turkey.

thanks be to the Living God for revealing Himself to His elect and by so doing transformed
them from Atheist's to sons of God.
raven1
2009-11-23 22:33:31 UTC
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huh. what a waist of electrons posting the word " Thanksgiving " to Atheist /
Evolutionists newsgroups.
nonetheless, the laughter continues... Natgeo. channel / Science channel actually has
their own kind making fools out of themselves with their usual cartoon shows featuring
Tom Turkey.
they go on to say Tom was once Tom Turkey, who ' evolved ' into a dinosaur, and then
' evolved ' back into Tom Turkey again. needless to say, their ' proof ' of this amazing
transformation is a cartoon show. this was not possible decades ago, as it is today, with
the advent of powerful computer's and computer graphic manipulation.
by using these cartoons they're able to convince the gullible that they came from
monkey's. the gullible never question these cartoon shows which look to them as true...
they eat it right up.
hey Atheist / Evolutionists, where did the monkey come from ? and where did the monkey's
progenitor's come from, and their progenitor's come from ?... all the way back to
elements that are not alive ? must be magic for a bunch of none living elements to give
themselves life... and eventually be my Thanksgiving turkey.
thanks be to the Living God for revealing Himself to His elect and by so doing transformed
them from Atheist's to sons of God.
You might bear in mind that it is better to remain silent and be
thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove any doubt.
h***@wondering.com
2009-11-24 01:14:16 UTC
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A reminder for my good friend joe.

We creationist evolutionists who accept that God is the ultimate cause
of all life and of how it has changed over time know humans did not
derive from monkeys. How do we know, because God in his creation
provided the information by which the real creatures preceeding humans
are to be found. Found in His revelation to us in the creation.

Joe has in past been appraised of this error, a kind of urban myth
cartoon he thinks pleasing to continue , but memory can fail. I wish
him a blessed thanksgiving.

Draw nigh unto God and He will draw nigh unto you.
Steve O
2009-11-24 02:48:38 UTC
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A reminder for my good friend joe.
We creationist evolutionists who accept that God is the ultimate cause
of all life and of how it has changed over time know humans did not
derive from monkeys. How do we know, because God in his creation
provided the information by which the real creatures preceeding humans
are to be found. Found in His revelation to us in the creation.
Joe has in past been appraised of this error, a kind of urban myth
cartoon he thinks pleasing to continue , but memory can fail. I wish
him a blessed thanksgiving.
Draw nigh unto God and He will draw nigh unto you.
Hold on a second, first of all, you are saying you ACCEPT that God is the
cause of all life and then go on to say you KNOW God is the cause of all
life.
So which is it?
Something which you know or something which you simply accept?
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Steve O
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BAAWA
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from Purgatory by Papal Indulgence
Father Haskell
2009-11-28 08:30:17 UTC
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A reminder for my good friend joe.
We creationist evolutionists who accept that God is the ultimate cause
of all life and of how it has changed over time know humans did not
derive from monkeys. How do we know, because God in his creation
provided the information by which the real creatures preceeding humans
are to be found.  Found in His revelation to us in the creation.
Joe has in past been appraised of this error, a kind of urban myth
cartoon he thinks pleasing to continue , but memory can fail.  I wish
him a blessed thanksgiving.
Draw nigh unto God and He will draw nigh unto you.
Hold on a second, first of all, you are saying you ACCEPT that God is the
cause of all life and then go on to say you KNOW God is the cause of all
life.
So which is it?
Something which you know or something which you simply accept?
MY turkey was a Beltsville white, created by ag
researchers employed by the United States government,
not god, thank you very much. It was delicious.
SkyEyes
2009-11-29 04:28:21 UTC
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A reminder for my good friend joe.
We creationist evolutionists who accept that God is the ultimate cause
of all life and of how it has changed over time know humans did not
derive from monkeys. How do we know, because God in his creation
provided the information by which the real creatures preceeding humans
are to be found.  Found in His revelation to us in the creation.
Joe has in past been appraised of this error, a kind of urban myth
cartoon he thinks pleasing to continue , but memory can fail.  I wish
him a blessed thanksgiving.
Draw nigh unto God and He will draw nigh unto you.
Hold on a second, first of all, you are saying you ACCEPT that God is the
cause of all life and then go on to say you KNOW God is the cause of all
life.
So which is it?
Something which you know or something which you simply accept?
MY turkey was a Beltsville white, created by ag
researchers employed by the United States government,
not god, thank you very much.  It was delicious.
Glad you enjoyed yours! Mine was a little mutant 8-lb Butterball,
which Kid Brother cooked in his smoker. It was to die for. :)

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
Father Haskell
2009-11-29 07:42:32 UTC
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A reminder for my good friend joe.
We creationist evolutionists who accept that God is the ultimate cause
of all life and of how it has changed over time know humans did not
derive from monkeys. How do we know, because God in his creation
provided the information by which the real creatures preceeding humans
are to be found.  Found in His revelation to us in the creation.
Joe has in past been appraised of this error, a kind of urban myth
cartoon he thinks pleasing to continue , but memory can fail.  I wish
him a blessed thanksgiving.
Draw nigh unto God and He will draw nigh unto you.
Hold on a second, first of all, you are saying you ACCEPT that God is the
cause of all life and then go on to say you KNOW God is the cause of all
life.
So which is it?
Something which you know or something which you simply accept?
MY turkey was a Beltsville white, created by ag
researchers employed by the United States government,
not god, thank you very much.  It was delicious.
Glad you enjoyed yours!  Mine was a little mutant 8-lb Butterball,
which Kid Brother cooked in his smoker.  It was to die for.  :)
Cooked ours on the Weber. It was to murder for.

Virgil
2009-11-24 05:25:53 UTC
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We creationist evolutionists
Poor sods! Working at creationist evolution must be like trying to mix
oil and water!
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Draw nigh unto God and He will draw nigh unto you.
I do not want nigh drawn anywhere near me.
h***@wondering.com
2009-11-25 00:22:32 UTC
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We creationist evolutionists
"Poor sods! Working at creationist evolution must be like trying to mix
oil and water!"

Not at all, the short version is - evolution is how He in the creation
produced biological change over time. That's how you know evolution was
the process of the change, you see as we all do it in His creation as a
revelation.

Please don't tell me you bought that fairy tale that religion and
science do not mix?
Virgil
2009-11-25 04:30:24 UTC
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We creationist evolutionists
"Poor sods! Working at creationist evolution must be like trying to mix
oil and water!"
Not at all, the short version is - evolution is how He in the creation
Who "He"?
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produced biological change over time. That's how you know evolution was
the process of the change, you see as we all do it in His creation as a
revelation.
Please don't tell me you bought that fairy tale that religion and
science do not mix?
It parses better than your fairy tale that they do mix.

And it well may be that your Thanksgiving turkey still will be a
dinosaur according to some future definition of dinosaur.

The distinction between some forms of dinosaur and birds is being
diminished almost every day.
h***@wondering.com
2009-11-25 13:17:23 UTC
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We creationist evolutionists
"Poor sods! Working at creationist evolution must be like trying to mix
oil and water!"
Not at all, the short version is - evolution is how He in the creation
"Who "He"?"
God, maker of heaven and earth.
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produced biological change over time. That's how you know evolution was
the process of the change, you see as we all do it in His creation as a
revelation.
Please don't tell me you bought that fairy tale that religion and
science do not mix?
"It parses better than your fairy tale that they do mix."

Ah, so you did buy the fairy tale. How so? As opinion you are welcome
to it, as to science it is meaningless.

"And it well may be that your Thanksgiving turkey still will be a
dinosaur according to some future definition of dinosaur.

The distinction between some forms of dinosaur and birds is being
diminished almost every day."

Sure, no problem, this area is one I follow with some interest as the
revelation given us is understood even more, as in the chinese examples
. That you feel the need to recite the obvious is but more evidence of
the brain rot the fairy tale affords.
Virgil
2009-11-25 21:09:29 UTC
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We creationist evolutionists
"Poor sods! Working at creationist evolution must be like trying to mix
oil and water!"
Not at all, the short version is - evolution is how He in the creation
"Who "He"?"
God, maker of heaven and earth.
Which one?

There are so many "God"s being proposed by so many different groups, all
of whom deny the validity of all the other "God"s, that I can't be
bothered to keep them sorted out.
Erwin Moller
2009-11-25 14:54:50 UTC
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We creationist evolutionists
"Poor sods! Working at creationist evolution must be like trying to mix
oil and water!"
Not at all, the short version is - evolution is how He in the creation
produced biological change over time. That's how you know evolution was
the process of the change, you see as we all do it in His creation as a
revelation.
If I may drop in...
Why don't you simply call that 'nature' instead of God then?

It appears to me your God is acting very naturally, according to the
laws of physics (he probably created himself).

There is no point in calling that God, is there?

I am a worshipper of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (we are called
Pastafarians), and I think I see His Hand in the creation of the universe.
After the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe He let it go its
own way, following the laws of nature.

Do you see the nonsense in that?
Why not ditch the concept God (and the Flying Spaghetti Monster) and
simply call it nature, and go on investigating that very nature?
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Please don't tell me you bought that fairy tale that religion and
science do not mix?
They mix badly.
It can be done, but a religious stance is simply not very reasonable (as
in plausible).

But of course, it IS possible there is a creator.
It IS possible he looks like a man with a beard.
Or maybe he looks like Flying Spaghetti Monster.
It IS possible he prefers to think in 45,78 dimensions on sundays, but
just 2.3 on mondays.
Or maybe he is more like Zeus? Thor?

Seriously man, who cares?
Sooooooooo many things are possible.
That doesn't mean they are plausible!


Why not stay in reality and try to do without blind believing?
Why not try to deal with what we know is for real?

Regards,
Erwin Moller
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"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare
h***@wondering.com
2009-11-25 19:42:48 UTC
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We creationist evolutionists
"Poor sods! Working at creationist evolution must be like trying to mix
oil and water!"
Not at all, the short version is - evolution is how He in the creation
produced biological change over time. That's how you know evolution was
the process of the change, you see as we all do it in His creation as a
revelation.
"If I may drop in... Why don't you simply call that 'nature' instead of
God then?

It appears to me your God is acting very naturally, according to the
laws of physics (he probably created himself).

There is no point in calling that God, is there?"

Let us cut to the chase. The question of the divine has nothing to do
with science and neither can be a refutation of the other. Science by
its very nature must stand mute on the question of the divine for
absence of what is required for using science to answer questions.

The divine needs neither to be evoked in science any more then it needs
to be excluded. If one accepts, on the basis of a kind of faith, that
only "natural" explanation will be in order as a presumption, science
still must remain mute. It then becomes a personal preference if one
wishes to accept that presumption. In doing science I do accept it but
when the day is done I have said nothing about the divine.

"I am a worshipper of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (we are called
Pastafarians), and I think I see His Hand in the creation of the
universe. After the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe He let
it go its own way, following the laws of nature."

Really, I much prefer "the Celestial Teapot". Tea is the nectar of the
divine. The grasp of the laws of physics it provides and how it is
easily seen in all places pours meaning into everything.
h***@wondering.com
2009-11-26 01:02:52 UTC
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We creationist evolutionists
"Poor sods! Working at creationist evolution must be like trying
to
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mix
oil and water!"
Not at all, the short version is - evolution is how He in the
creation
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"Who "He"?"
God, maker of heaven and earth.
"Which one?"

The one given you before, the god of abraham.

"There are so many "God"s being proposed by so many different groups,
all of whom deny the validity of all the other "God"s, that I can't be
bothered to keep them sorted out."

Hmmm, is it bother or some factorthat limits your memory? Perhaps best
to pack it in and avoid the bother, let alone evaluate "validity" if
memory is a problem. If ever a refresher is required, just ask me again
as you have twice now.
Virgil
2009-11-26 04:44:42 UTC
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"There are so many "God"s being proposed by so many different groups,
all of whom deny the validity of all the other "God"s, that I can't be
bothered to keep them sorted out."
Hmmm, is it bother or some factorthat limits your memory?
It is entirely a matter of sheer indifference. If you varied theists
cannot sort out your differences among yourselves, why should anyone who
does not believe in any of your claims bother to do it for you?
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If ever a refresher is required, just ask me again
as you have twice now.
Actually the only thing I have asked for is that you theists sort out
your own disagreements before trying to impose on alt.atheism.

And no atheist nor evolutionist ever claimed your turkey was ever a
dinosaur. Or do you dine only on immensely old turkeys.
h***@wondering.com
2009-11-27 13:57:55 UTC
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"There are so many "God"s being proposed by so many different groups,
all of whom deny the validity of all the other "God"s, that I can't be
bothered to keep them sorted out."
Hmmm, is it bother or some factorthat limits your memory?
"It is entirely a matter of sheer indifference. If you varied theists
cannot sort out your differences among yourselves, why should anyone who
does not believe in any of your claims bother to do it for you?"

So your poor memory is based on inattention. That makes sense. Nothing
in this cute blurb has to now been a point of discussion. Not only do
you fail to recall which god we are discussing, your mind is taken up
with such confusion as to what others are thinking and not sticking to
the point.
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If ever a refresher is required, just ask me again
as you have twice now.
""Actually the only thing I have asked for is that you theists sort out
your own disagreements before trying to impose on alt.atheism."

Ah, more evidence, inability to focus on your own past questions.
Recalling for you again, you twice asked which god and the answer was
provided. With other threads you confuse yourself reveals something of
the depth of the problem.

Idid not come to any newsgroup, this thread was cross posted in multiple
groups. I replied to the original post , you to my post and here we are
now taken up with medical concerns.

"And no atheist nor evolutionist ever claimed your turkey was ever a
dinosaur. Or do you dine only on immensely old turkeys."

My concern deepens, you confuse posters and wander in a world of failed
memory.

If you are of a certain age, you might want to ask your doctor for
direction in this matter.
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