Discussion:
Ignorance, language and Evolution
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old man joe
2010-07-24 11:26:01 UTC
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Ignorance, language and Evolution
The ignorant chimps who drool about evolution being only a theory and
not a fact etc.
It is both theory and fact, Theory meaning established scientific
finding -something known.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
Get you terms straight before you hit the keyboard.
EVOLUTION IS TRUTH BOTH IN FACT AND IN THEORY
Sorry GOD SQUAD but that is how it is... TOUGH init?
if Evolution were true and factual, you'd have a tail, be covered in fur and you'd dine on tics you
picked off your fellow Evolutionist. and besides that, to say Evolution is true doesn't make it
true.

case in point : you, being an Atheist, haven't shown exactly how Evolution is fact... you just say
it is. Atheists default to Gnostic non-sense since Evolution is nothing more than an anti-Christ
philosophy which tries to deny that Jesus Christ, Eternal God, created all things as we read in Jn.
1:1-4.

there, in the Bible, we read fact, not the hearsay non-sense coming from Atheists.

Atheists need to use God's Creation to try and prove there is no God... Christians do not use
Evolution to try and prove there is God... and Atheists call Christians ' stupid ! '

Evolution, of necessity, ignore facts. Evolution ignores how life came to be in the first place.
Evolution starts on the second floor... it has no foundation. what kind of ' facts ' have no
beginning ? answer : Evolution.

the real facts are right in Genesis chapter one... " And God made the beast of the earth after his
kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and
God saw that it was good. " v. 25

" after his kind. " not " made monkeys which evolved into humans... "

the " God Squad " has the Living God, the Evolutionists have their Atheist god Darwin, who is dead.
Budikka666
2010-07-24 11:33:17 UTC
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Funny, but when I deleted everything from your message which had no
basis in science, there was nothing left to which to respond. When
you can present a level of scientific evidence for your wild beliefs
to stack up against the mountain of evidence for evolution, then you
can talk. Until then you look like the idiot you are. As an example,
here's a tiny smattering of the kind of thing you'll need:

Only evolution can explain it:
1. http://tinyurl.com/2em3do6
2. http://tinyurl.com/2eskb9o
3. http://tinyurl.com/27acoj2
4. http://tinyurl.com/3ydhhm3
5. http://tinyurl.com/2ul3n8l
6. http://tinyurl.com/3xmqhrd
7. http://tinyurl.com/2epkqf6
8. http://tinyurl.com/33rknq6
9. http://tinyurl.com/2ata3rr
10. http://tinyurl.com/2bszz4r
11. http://tinyurl.com/2e5pzko
12. http://tinyurl.com/2fy3ug9
13. http://tinyurl.com/2f427lp
14. http://tinyurl.com/2d5wdcv
15. http://tinyurl.com/24ltve7
16. http://tinyurl.com/2wjcgtu
17. http://tinyurl.com/26d5j8n
18. http://tinyurl.com/2836rjb
19. http://tinyurl.com/382c568
20. http://tinyurl.com/34uaxp4
21. http://tinyurl.com/3a5bewy

When creation goes up against evolution, creation gets trounced:
Item 1: http://tinyurl.com/mnkb94
Item 2: http://tinyurl.com/n9dcfh
Item 3: http://tinyurl.com/kt2exk
Item 4: http://tinyurl.com/mfztxy
Item 5: http://tinyurl.com/n596r7
Item 6: http://tinyurl.com/ncree3
Item 7: http://tinyurl.com/nqufcj
Item 8: http://tinyurl.com/p7vu8u
Item 9: http://tinyurl.com/lxjw29
Item 10: http://tinyurl.com/muapjy
Item 11: http://tinyurl.com/nvdqsz
Item 12: http://tinyurl.com/ovpe85
Item 13: http://tinyurl.com/ltk5fy
Item 14: http://tinyurl.com/loykqv
Item 15: http://tinyurl.com/koarf7
Item 16: http://tinyurl.com/lq5jwg
Item 17: http://tinyurl.com/oyjkpu
Item 18: http://tinyurl.com/qha55o
Item 19: http://tinyurl.com/l6e6u2
item 20: http://tinyurl.com/krp2g5

Here are 26 proofs of macroevolution, every one of which Liar Dave ran
from rather than give the scientific discussion he lied he would:
http://tinyurl.com/78y2p

666 items of strong evidence for macroevolution, every one of which
Liar Dave ran from rather than give the scientific discussion he lied
he would:
Example 1: http://tinyurl.com/dxqjc
Example 2: http://tinyurl.com/d4376
Example 3: http://tinyurl.com/d5vqm
Example 4: http://tinyurl.com/dmbxj
Example 5: http://tinyurl.com/cy7r7
Example 6: http://tinyurl.com/dj9sh
Example 7: http://tinyurl.com/aplxu
Example 8: http://tinyurl.com/clpsx
Examples 9-539: http://tinyurl.com/cy9m2
Example 540: http://tinyurl.com/dsjku
Example 541: http://tinyurl.com/bhxw2
Example 542: http://tinyurl.com/77tyl
Example 543: http://tinyurl.com/bpdqm
Example 544: http://tinyurl.com/czsdq
Example 545: http://tinyurl.com/9qnrc
Example 546: http://tinyurl.com/dxg8s
Example 547: http://tinyurl.com/88kch
Example 548: http://tinyurl.com/88kch (shared with 547 thread)
Example 549: http://tinyurl.com/ccw8y
Example 550: http://tinyurl.com/7cxsz
Example 551: http://tinyurl.com/74o4q
Examples 552-577: http://tinyurl.com/7u8lv
Example 578: http://tinyurl.com/9xo8o
Example 579: http://tinyurl.com/avzzk
Example 580: http://tinyurl.com/7segx
Example 581: http://tinyurl.com/8c8od
Example 582: http://tinyurl.com/9voan
Example 583: http://tinyurl.com/76zao (misnumbered as 582)
Example 584: http://tinyurl.com/crzmz
Example 585: http://tinyurl.com/exagp
Examples 586-590: http://tinyurl.com/c4pea
Example 591: http://tinyurl.com/9aveh
Example 592: http://tinyurl.com/d2vmd
Example 593: http://tinyurl.com/dsg6z
Example 594: http://tinyurl.com/75rdt
Example 595: http://tinyurl.com/ak3oo
Example 596: http://tinyurl.com/anqh5
Example 597: http://tinyurl.com/89zjr
Example 598: http://tinyurl.com/9s6cq
Example 599: http://tinyurl.com/7oorv
Example 600: http://tinyurl.com/cujkx
Examples 601-608: http://tinyurl.com/bnflb
Examples 609-615: http://tinyurl.com/9pl7b
Examples 616-635: http://tinyurl.com/cqb3n
Examples 636-666: http://tinyurl.com/ay53o

"Five Questions Evolutionists Would Rather Dodge" are not dodged at:
http://tinyurl.com/8d77u
And 10 questions creationists would rather dodge are dodged at:
http://tinyurl.com/7lvwr
And finally, a leading supporter of intelligent design is disowned by
his own university:
http://tinyurl.com/dydbr
And embarrassed on court on the topic:
http://www.aclupa.org/downloads/Day11PMSession.pdf

And finally, be sure to check Past It Dave's Sure-Fire Guide to
Winning Arguments to see how many of his rules he adhered to in this
"response":
http://tinyurl.com/e37pw

Bible Absurdities, Contradictions, and Lies, parts 1 - 8:
http://tinyurl.com/8bsws
http://tinyurl.com/aumcy
http://tinyurl.com/bpy24
http://tinyurl.com/b34ts
http://tinyurl.com/cfodb
http://tinyurl.com/974pu
http://tinyurl.com/77ga3
http://tinyurl.com/cjcp7

Evolution is supported by solid science. Intelligent design is
nothing
but tired religion. Read "Vital Dust" by Nobel laureate Christian de
Duve. Read about the many experiments that have produced organic
chemicals that are the basis of life. Read about how these same
chemicals are found in space.

Read about:
Abiogenesis:
http://home.houston.rr.com/apologia/orgel.htm
http://informationcentre.tripod.com/abiogenesis.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/default.htm

Proto cells:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/239787.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1142840.stm

Factories of life:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/275738.stm

Lab molecules mimic life:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/217054.stm

Mechanism for evolution described:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/222096.stm

Smallest genome a lot smaller than smallest modern cell:
http://mednews.stanford.edu/news_releases_html/2001/febreleases/bioet...

Precambrian to cambrian:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/topics/evolution/PSCF12-97Miller.html

Early diversification:
http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Ecology/early_animal_evolution.htm

Transitional forms:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

Primitive fish different:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/504776.stm

Fish with fingers:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/fishfossil0312.html

Snake with legs:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/680116.stm

Ant-wasp evolution:
http://research.amnh.org/entomology/social_insects/publications/ms_sp...

Mosquitoes still evolving:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/158522.stm

Origins of flight:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2664541.stm

4-winged dinos:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2684927.stm

Dog evolution:
http://www.provet.co.uk/online/dogs/evolution%20of%20the%20dog.htm

Human evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/

Computer simulated evolution:
http://necsi.org/postdocs/sayama/sdsr/

Evolution vs. creationism debates:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/science/creationism/debates.html

Evolution not "atheist religion":
http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Inside/01-97/creat2.html

29 Evidences supporting evolution:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

The evolution of the eye:
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/eye.html

The woodpecker's tongue:
http://omega.med.yale.edu/~rjr38/Woodpecker.htm

Radiometric dating - a Christian perpective:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html#page

Noah's ark never happened:
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/noahs_ark.html

Ex-creationist on why young Earth creationism doesn't work:
http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/

Another ex-creationist:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/7755/

Creationists cannot define "kind":
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/kinds.htm

Even evolutionists believe in God!:
http://www.exn.ca/Stories/1997/04/04/01.asp

General anti-creationism/pro-evolution FAQs:
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/index.html
http://www.rice.edu/armadillo/Sciacademy/riggins/newindex.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-meritt/complexity.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dave_matson/young-earth/specif...
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Creationism.htm
http://vuletic.com/hume/cefec/index.html

Questionable creationist credentials:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/credentials.html

Even dyed-in-the-wool creationists think a lot of their arguments are
bad:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp

Budikka
livvy
2010-07-25 05:30:45 UTC
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Post by Budikka666
Funny, but when I deleted everything from your message which had no
basis in science, there was nothing left to which to respond.  When
you can present a level of scientific evidence for your wild beliefs
to stack up against the mountain of evidence for evolution, then you
can talk.  Until then you look like the idiot you are.  As an example,
  1.http://tinyurl.com/2em3do6
  2.http://tinyurl.com/2eskb9o
  3.http://tinyurl.com/27acoj2
  4.http://tinyurl.com/3ydhhm3
  5.http://tinyurl.com/2ul3n8l
  6.http://tinyurl.com/3xmqhrd
  7.http://tinyurl.com/2epkqf6
  8.http://tinyurl.com/33rknq6
  9.http://tinyurl.com/2ata3rr
10.http://tinyurl.com/2bszz4r
11.http://tinyurl.com/2e5pzko
12.http://tinyurl.com/2fy3ug9
13.http://tinyurl.com/2f427lp
14.http://tinyurl.com/2d5wdcv
15.http://tinyurl.com/24ltve7
16.http://tinyurl.com/2wjcgtu
17.http://tinyurl.com/26d5j8n
18.http://tinyurl.com/2836rjb
19.http://tinyurl.com/382c568
20.http://tinyurl.com/34uaxp4
21.http://tinyurl.com/3a5bewy
Item   1:http://tinyurl.com/mnkb94
Item   2:http://tinyurl.com/n9dcfh
Item   3:http://tinyurl.com/kt2exk
Item   4:http://tinyurl.com/mfztxy
Item   5:http://tinyurl.com/n596r7
Item   6:http://tinyurl.com/ncree3
Item   7:http://tinyurl.com/nqufcj
Item   8:http://tinyurl.com/p7vu8u
Item   9:http://tinyurl.com/lxjw29
Item 10:http://tinyurl.com/muapjy
Item 11:http://tinyurl.com/nvdqsz
Item 12:http://tinyurl.com/ovpe85
Item 13:http://tinyurl.com/ltk5fy
Item 14:http://tinyurl.com/loykqv
Item 15:http://tinyurl.com/koarf7
Item 16:http://tinyurl.com/lq5jwg
Item 17:http://tinyurl.com/oyjkpu
Item 18:http://tinyurl.com/qha55o
Item 19:http://tinyurl.com/l6e6u2
item 20:http://tinyurl.com/krp2g5
Here are 26 proofs of macroevolution, every one of which Liar Dave ran
from rather than give the scientific discussion he lied he would:http://tinyurl.com/78y2p
666 items of strong evidence for macroevolution, every one of which
Liar Dave ran from rather than give the scientific discussion he lied
Example    1:http://tinyurl.com/dxqjc
Example    2:http://tinyurl.com/d4376
Example    3:http://tinyurl.com/d5vqm
Example    4:http://tinyurl.com/dmbxj
Example    5:http://tinyurl.com/cy7r7
Example    6:http://tinyurl.com/dj9sh
Example    7:http://tinyurl.com/aplxu
Example    8:http://tinyurl.com/clpsx
Examples   9-539:http://tinyurl.com/cy9m2
Example 540:http://tinyurl.com/dsjku
Example 541:http://tinyurl.com/bhxw2
Example 542:http://tinyurl.com/77tyl
Example 543:http://tinyurl.com/bpdqm
Example 544:http://tinyurl.com/czsdq
Example 545:http://tinyurl.com/9qnrc
Example 546:http://tinyurl.com/dxg8s
Example 547:http://tinyurl.com/88kch
Example 548:http://tinyurl.com/88kch(shared with 547 thread)
Example 549:http://tinyurl.com/ccw8y
Example 550:http://tinyurl.com/7cxsz
Example 551:http://tinyurl.com/74o4q
Examples 552-577:http://tinyurl.com/7u8lv
Example 578:http://tinyurl.com/9xo8o
Example 579:http://tinyurl.com/avzzk
Example 580:http://tinyurl.com/7segx
Example 581:http://tinyurl.com/8c8od
Example 582:http://tinyurl.com/9voan
Example 583:http://tinyurl.com/76zao(misnumbered as 582)
Example 584:http://tinyurl.com/crzmz
Example 585:http://tinyurl.com/exagp
Examples 586-590:http://tinyurl.com/c4pea
Example 591:http://tinyurl.com/9aveh
Example 592:http://tinyurl.com/d2vmd
Example 593:http://tinyurl.com/dsg6z
Example 594:http://tinyurl.com/75rdt
Example 595:http://tinyurl.com/ak3oo
Example 596:http://tinyurl.com/anqh5
Example 597:http://tinyurl.com/89zjr
Example 598:http://tinyurl.com/9s6cq
Example 599:http://tinyurl.com/7oorv
Example 600:http://tinyurl.com/cujkx
Examples 601-608:http://tinyurl.com/bnflb
Examples 609-615:http://tinyurl.com/9pl7b
Examples 616-635:http://tinyurl.com/cqb3n
Examples 636-666:http://tinyurl.com/ay53o
"Five Questions Evolutionists Would Rather Dodge" are not dodged at:http://tinyurl.com/8d77u
And 10 questions creationists would rather dodge are dodged at:http://tinyurl.com/7lvwr
And finally, a leading supporter of intelligent design is disowned by
his own university:http://tinyurl.com/dydbr
And embarrassed on court on the topic:http://www.aclupa.org/downloads/Day11PMSession.pdf
And finally, be sure to check Past It  Dave's Sure-Fire Guide to
Winning Arguments to see how many of his rules he adhered to in this
"response":http://tinyurl.com/e37pw
Bible Absurdities, Contradictions, and Lies, parts 1 - 8:http://tinyurl.com/8bswshttp://tinyurl.com/aumcyhttp://tinyurl.com/bpy24http://tinyurl.com/b34tshttp://tinyurl.com/cfodbhttp://tinyurl.com/974puhttp://tinyurl.com/77ga3http://tinyurl.com/cjcp7
Evolution is supported by solid science.  Intelligent design is
nothing
but tired religion.  Read "Vital Dust" by Nobel laureate Christian de
Duve.  Read about the many experiments that have produced organic
chemicals that are the basis of life.  Read about how these same
chemicals are found in space.
Abiogenesis:http://home.houston.rr.com/apologia/orgel.htmhttp://informationcentre.tripod.com/abiogenesis.htmlhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/default.htm
Proto cells:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/239787.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1142840.stm
Factories of life:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/275738.stm
Lab molecules mimic life:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/217054.stm
Mechanism for evolution described:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/222096.stm
Smallest genome a lot smaller than smallest modern cell:http://mednews.stanford.edu/news_releases_html/2001/febreleases/bioet...
Precambrian to cambrian:http://www.asa3.org/ASA/topics/evolution/PSCF12-97Miller.html
Early diversification:http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Ecology/early_animal_evolution.htm
Transitional forms:http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html
Primitive fish different:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/504776.stm
Fish with fingers:http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/fishfossil0312.html
Snake with legs:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/680116.stm
Ant-wasp evolution:http://research.amnh.org/entomology/social_insects/publications/ms_sp...
Mosquitoes still evolving:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/158522.stm
Origins of flight:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2664541.stm
4-winged dinos:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2684927.stm
Dog evolution:http://www.provet.co.uk/online/dogs/evolution%20of%20the%20dog.htm
Human evolution:http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
Computer simulated evolution:http://necsi.org/postdocs/sayama/sdsr/
Evolution vs. creationism debates:http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/science/creationism/debates.html
Evolution not "atheist religion":http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Inside/01-97/creat2.html
29 Evidences supporting evolution:http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
The evolution of the eye:http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/eye.html
The woodpecker's tongue:http://omega.med.yale.edu/~rjr38/Woodpecker.htm
Radiometric dating - a Christian perpective:http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html#page
Noah's ark never happened:http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/noahs_ark.html
Ex-creationist on why young Earth creationism doesn't work:http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/
Another ex-creationist:http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/7755/
Creationists cannot define "kind":http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/kinds.htm
Even evolutionists believe in God!:http://www.exn.ca/Stories/1997/04/04/01.asp
General anti-creationism/pro-evolution FAQs:http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/index.htmlhttp://www.rice.edu/armadillo/Sciacademy/riggins/newindex.htmhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-meritt/complexity.htmlhttp://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dave_matson/young-earth/specif...http://www.nobeliefs.com/Creationism.htmhttp://vuletic.com/hume/cefec/index.html
Questionable creationist credentials:http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/credentials.html
Even dyed-in-the-wool creationists think a lot of their arguments are
bad:http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp
Budikka
Is there anyone in particular who whom you are lashing? All's you
got is cut and paste, articles. No education, couldn't get past 7th
grade science,eh? That would be on you,
you can't be bothered with any "learning nonsense", then all you got
is your cutting and pasting. Good for you.....hasn't a thing to with
anyone on the planet.
Tim Murphy
2010-07-24 12:27:33 UTC
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So this Evolution business...

When you have read "On the Origin of Species" let me know then I will
give you a further reading list.

When you have completed that reading list I will send you a detailed
questionnaire to examine your understanding of the subject.

Until you have completed this I regard your comments as uninformed
gossip.

Have I read your holy book and other Christian literature?
Yes, and I find it pretty poor proof of the claims of your cult(s).
Post by old man joe
Ignorance, language and Evolution
The ignorant chimps who drool about evolution being only a theory and
not a fact etc.
It is both theory and fact, Theory meaning established scientific
finding -something known.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
Get you terms straight before you hit the keyboard.
EVOLUTION IS TRUTH BOTH IN FACT AND IN THEORY
Sorry GOD SQUAD but that is how it is... TOUGH init?
if Evolution were true and factual, you'd have a tail, be covered in fur and you'd dine on tics you
picked off your fellow Evolutionist.  and besides that, to say Evolution is true doesn't make it
true.
case in point : you, being an Atheist, haven't shown exactly how Evolution is fact... you just say
it is.  Atheists default to Gnostic non-sense since Evolution is nothing more than an anti-Christ
philosophy which tries to deny that Jesus Christ, Eternal God, created all things as we read in Jn.
1:1-4.
there, in the Bible, we read fact, not the hearsay non-sense coming from Atheists.
Atheists need to use God's Creation to try and prove there is no God... Christians do not use
Evolution to try and prove there is God... and Atheists call Christians ' stupid ! '
Evolution, of necessity, ignore facts.  Evolution ignores how life came to be in the first place.
Evolution starts on the second floor... it has no foundation.  what kind of ' facts ' have no
beginning ?  answer : Evolution.
the real facts are right in Genesis chapter one... " And God made the beast of the earth after his
kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and
God saw that it was good. "  v. 25
" after his kind. "  not " made monkeys which evolved into humans... "  
the " God Squad " has the Living God, the Evolutionists have their Atheist god Darwin, who is dead.
AllSeeing-I
2010-07-24 12:43:57 UTC
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Post by Tim Murphy
So this Evolution business...
When you have read "On the Origin of Species" let me know then I will
give you a further reading list.
When you have completed that reading list I will send you a detailed
questionnaire to examine your understanding of the subject.
Until you have completed this I regard your comments as uninformed
gossip.
When you are done reading the bible, please let me know. I have more
for you to read. This reading list will be quite extensive, so please
allow considerable time.

When you have completed the reading list there will be a test. The
score will indicate your weed to wheat ratio and gage your ability to
comprehend along with a few other factors.

Until you have completed the reading list and it's subsequent test, we
will have to regard your comments as highly erroneous, evolutionist
garbage.
Tim Murphy
2010-07-24 12:55:38 UTC
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Post by AllSeeing-I
Post by Tim Murphy
So this Evolution business...
When you have read "On the Origin of Species" let me know then I will
give you a further reading list.
When you have completed that reading list I will send you a detailed
questionnaire to examine your understanding of the subject.
Well you do what religious people do - you elide the point I made.

I have read the the bible and other religious literature extensively
and I am not convinced whereas I doubt you have read any serious
evolution science.

Why do you miss the point of what I wrote?

I have read - you have not - it is obvious from what you say.

If you had read but had points of disagreement then we could debate

BUT you are a fundamentalist and so like the Taliban.
Post by AllSeeing-I
Post by Tim Murphy
Until you have completed this I regard your comments as uninformed
gossip.
When you are done reading the bible, please let me know. I have more
for you to read. This reading list will be quite extensive, so please
allow considerable time.
When you have completed the reading list there will be a test. The
score will indicate your  weed to wheat ratio and gage your ability to
comprehend along with a few other factors.
Until you have completed the reading list and it's subsequent test, we
will have to regard your comments as highly erroneous, evolutionist
garbage.
Ralph
2010-07-24 13:29:38 UTC
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Post by AllSeeing-I
Post by Tim Murphy
So this Evolution business...
When you have read "On the Origin of Species" let me know then I will
give you a further reading list.
When you have completed that reading list I will send you a detailed
questionnaire to examine your understanding of the subject.
Until you have completed this I regard your comments as uninformed
gossip.
When you are done reading the bible, please let me know. I have more
for you to read. This reading list will be quite extensive, so please
allow considerable time.
When you have completed the reading list there will be a test. The
score will indicate your weed to wheat ratio and gage your ability to
comprehend along with a few other factors.
Until you have completed the reading list and it's subsequent test, we
will have to regard your comments as highly erroneous, evolutionist
garbage.
How can you know that, Assman? If you don't have any scientific
knowledge how do you know when someone is wrong concerning science, of
any kind?
Virgil
2010-07-24 19:13:40 UTC
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In article
Post by AllSeeing-I
Post by Tim Murphy
So this Evolution business...
When you have read "On the Origin of Species" let me know then I will
give you a further reading list.
When you have completed that reading list I will send you a detailed
questionnaire to examine your understanding of the subject.
Until you have completed this I regard your comments as uninformed
gossip.
When you are done reading the bible, please let me know. I have more
for you to read. This reading list will be quite extensive, so please
allow considerable time.
When you have completed the reading list there will be a test. The
score will indicate your weed to wheat ratio and gage your ability to
comprehend along with a few other factors.
Until you have completed the reading list and it's subsequent test, we
will have to regard your comments as highly erroneous, evolutionist
garbage.
Nonsense! Evolution is a scientific theory and, as such, is unaffected
by such works of fiction asa your "bible".
Virgil
2010-07-24 21:22:22 UTC
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Post by AllSeeing-I
Post by Tim Murphy
So this Evolution business...
When you have read "On the Origin of Species" let me know then I will
give you a further reading list.
When you have completed that reading list I will send you a detailed
questionnaire to examine your understanding of the subject.
Until you have completed this I regard your comments as uninformed
gossip.
When you are done reading the bible
I prefer my fiction readings to be more modern.
Syd
2010-07-25 07:09:51 UTC
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Post by Virgil
In article
Post by AllSeeing-I
Post by Tim Murphy
So this Evolution business...
When you have read "On the Origin of Species" let me know then I will
give you a further reading list.
When you have completed that reading list I will send you a detailed
questionnaire to examine your understanding of the subject.
Until you have completed this I regard your comments as uninformed
gossip.
When you are done reading the bible
I prefer my fiction readings to be more modern.
And far better written.

PDW
AllSeeing-I
2010-07-24 12:29:09 UTC
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Post by old man joe
Ignorance, language and Evolution
The ignorant chimps who drool about evolution being only a theory and
not a fact etc.
It is both theory and fact, Theory meaning established scientific
finding -something known.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
Get you terms straight before you hit the keyboard.
EVOLUTION IS TRUTH BOTH IN FACT AND IN THEORY
Sorry GOD SQUAD but that is how it is... TOUGH init?
if Evolution were true and factual, you'd have a tail, be covered in fur and you'd dine on tics you
picked off your fellow Evolutionist.  and besides that, to say Evolution is true doesn't make it
true.
case in point : you, being an Atheist, haven't shown exactly how Evolution is fact... you just say
it is.  Atheists default to Gnostic non-sense since Evolution is nothing more than an anti-Christ
philosophy which tries to deny that Jesus Christ, Eternal God, created all things as we read in Jn.
1:1-4.
there, in the Bible, we read fact, not the hearsay non-sense coming from Atheists.
Atheists need to use God's Creation to try and prove there is no God... Christians do not use
Evolution to try and prove there is God... and Atheists call Christians ' stupid ! '
Evolution, of necessity, ignore facts.  Evolution ignores how life came to be in the first place.
Evolution starts on the second floor... it has no foundation.  what kind of ' facts ' have no
beginning ?  answer : Evolution.
the real facts are right in Genesis chapter one... " And God made the beast of the earth after his
kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and
God saw that it was good. "  v. 25
" after his kind. "  not " made monkeys which evolved into humans... "  
the " God Squad " has the Living God, the Evolutionists have their Atheist god Darwin, who is dead.- Hide quoted text -
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I think they have brain damage.

They even think balls spin when they don't!
Virgil
2010-07-24 19:11:28 UTC
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Post by AllSeeing-I
They even think balls spin when they don't!
If some line fixed in a body has moved, as the body moves, so as to make
a nonzero angle with its original position, then that body has rotated.


By the above, or any other sensible definition of rotation, a ball swung
on the end of a string rotates.
Virgil
2010-07-24 21:20:12 UTC
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Post by AllSeeing-I
They even think balls spin when they don't!
A ball being swung on the end of a string is rotating, at least in the
sense that some lines fixed in the ball are changing directions, which
is all that is needed in order to have rotation.

Anyone who can maintain that a ball moving so that some fixed lines in
it are changing direction is NOT rotating, is both a knave and a fool.
Uncle Vic
2010-07-25 04:13:57 UTC
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One fine day in alt.atheism, AllSeeing-I <***@usa.com> wrote:

(About atheists)
Post by AllSeeing-I
I think they have brain damage.
They even think balls spin when they don't!
This has been explained to you, yet you don't learn. You must want to
remain stupid for the rest of your deranged life.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011

"You don't even know what is a vague prophecies and what is a clear one!"
--Frankie Lee 7/6/10
Devils Advocaat
2010-07-25 07:24:59 UTC
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Post by AllSeeing-I
Post by old man joe
Ignorance, language and Evolution
The ignorant chimps who drool about evolution being only a theory and
not a fact etc.
It is both theory and fact, Theory meaning established scientific
finding -something known.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
Get you terms straight before you hit the keyboard.
EVOLUTION IS TRUTH BOTH IN FACT AND IN THEORY
Sorry GOD SQUAD but that is how it is... TOUGH init?
if Evolution were true and factual, you'd have a tail, be covered in fur and you'd dine on tics you
picked off your fellow Evolutionist.  and besides that, to say Evolution is true doesn't make it
true.
case in point : you, being an Atheist, haven't shown exactly how Evolution is fact... you just say
it is.  Atheists default to Gnostic non-sense since Evolution is nothing more than an anti-Christ
philosophy which tries to deny that Jesus Christ, Eternal God, created all things as we read in Jn.
1:1-4.
there, in the Bible, we read fact, not the hearsay non-sense coming from Atheists.
Atheists need to use God's Creation to try and prove there is no God... Christians do not use
Evolution to try and prove there is God... and Atheists call Christians ' stupid ! '
Evolution, of necessity, ignore facts.  Evolution ignores how life came to be in the first place.
Evolution starts on the second floor... it has no foundation.  what kind of ' facts ' have no
beginning ?  answer : Evolution.
the real facts are right in Genesis chapter one... " And God made the beast of the earth after his
kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and
God saw that it was good. "  v. 25
" after his kind. "  not " made monkeys which evolved into humans... "  
the " God Squad " has the Living God, the Evolutionists have their Atheist god Darwin, who is dead.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I think they have brain damage.
They even think balls spin when they don't!
See "Walking round maddy's circle".
Reverend Dave
2010-07-25 16:00:01 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:17:07 -0700 (PDT), Tim Murphy
Ignorance, language and Evolution
The ignorant chimps who drool about evolution being only a theory and
not a fact etc.
It is both theory and fact, Theory meaning established scientific
finding -something known.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
Get you terms straight before you hit the keyboard.
EVOLUTION IS TRUTH BOTH IN FACT AND IN THEORY
Sorry GOD SQUAD but that is how it is... TOUGH init?
if Evolution were true and factual, you'd have a tail, be covered in
fur and you'd dine on tics you picked off your fellow Evolutionist.
and besides that, to say Evolution is true doesn't make it true.
case in point : you, being an Atheist, haven't shown exactly how
Evolution is fact... you just say it is.
Fact: Chimpanzees, bonobos and gorillas don't have a tail either. Like
our aforementioned primate cousins we have a tailbone.

Fact: Humans do indeed have "fur" although we like to call it hair.
Bonobos, chimps and gorillas, while covered with body hair have facial
areas that are sometimes completely devoid of hair, unlike most other
mammals.

Fact: Chimpanzees groom each other, extract the lice and eat them (an
excellent source of protein). Humans have also been know to groom each
other for lice but choose to go out for a burger rather than eat them.

Fact: We share retroviral DNA markers with our ape cousins which occur in
the exact same places in our DNA sequences. These markers indicate common
descent which means simply that Darwin was right!
Atheists default to Gnostic
non-sense since Evolution is nothing more than an anti-Christ
philosophy which tries to deny that Jesus Christ, Eternal God, created
all things as we read in Jn. 1:1-4.
there, in the Bible, we read fact, not the hearsay non-sense coming from Atheists.
Is the Bible really fact? You should ask yourself a few questions and try
to seek the answers.

Why did it take ten years after the supposed death of Jesus before Saul
(Paul) got around to preaching about him?

Why did Paul's knowledge of Jesus consist only of the his crucifixion,
resurrection and and ascention into heaven?

Why did the back stories for Jesus (the gospels) not get written until
after 70AD?

Why were some gospels such as those of Thomas and Mary Magdalene rejected
by the church elders for inclusion in the NT?
Atheists need to use God's Creation to try and prove there is no
God... Christians do not use Evolution to try and prove there is
God... and Atheists call Christians ' stupid ! '
Blinded and brainwashed by belief perhaps would be more correct although
many believers prove themselves to be willfully ignorant when it comes to
evolution and science in general.
Evolution, of necessity, ignore facts. Evolution ignores how life
came to be in the first place. Evolution starts on the second floor...
it has no foundation. what kind of ' facts ' have no beginning ?
answer : Evolution.
Evolution requires facts, the study of evolution provides facts. You and
your ilk just choose to ignore those facts
the real facts are right in Genesis chapter one... " And God made the
beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and
every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw
that it was good. " v. 25
" after his kind. " not " made monkeys which evolved into humans... "
the " God Squad " has the Living God, the Evolutionists have their
Atheist god Darwin, who is dead.
The difference being that Darwin was correct and known to have existed
whereas your so called "Living God" has never been proven to exist and
the stories that purport to to prove his existence are riddled with
contradictions and bad science.
--
"There's no messiah in here. There's a mess in here alright, but there's
no messiah"
- Brian's Mom (the window scene) - The Life of Brian
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