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--- Be humble before the God Almighty.
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yjk
2011-10-24 09:28:27 UTC
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<?>---said;
"Believe those who seek the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Uncle Vic
2011-10-24 21:02:14 UTC
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Post by yjk
<?>---said;
"Believe those who seek the truth. Doubt those who find it."
Sounds like the Creationist Creedo.

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Uncle Vic
Smiler
2011-10-26 01:14:00 UTC
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:28:27 -0700, yjk wrote:


SUBJECT: Be humble before the God Almighty

What god? You've yet to show evidence that such a being exists outside
your demented mind. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
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Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
tooly
2011-10-26 12:40:22 UTC
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Post by Smiler
SUBJECT: Be humble before the God Almighty
What god? You've yet to show evidence that such a being exists outside
your demented mind. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
There is a precious egg out there sitting in it's nest...fragile as
all hell. It is the egg of humanity; contained within it's innards
all the hopes and promises of all generations gone by, in futures of
high meaning as found in each new generation pushing on to a certain
percieved manifest of an even GREATER humanity and then a greater
humanity still. Heavenly vistas of paradise on earth, but not found
in gold, but in the virtues of human compassion and moral BEing.

Who is gonna sit on it NOW; who is gonna protect it with all the
jackhammers and bulldozers of science and small minded intellectuals
running about? Who is gonna nurture it's promise of a tomorrow based
in higher virtue?

Indeed...'what God'? What demented silly beliefs that held warmth to
it's comfort in past years, will work NOW; in times of such
learnedness and raised consciousness to the stars? Science tries to
become a surrogate mother to it's domain, but it's cold objectivity
only provides the egg with justifications of, well...that coldness it
now feels that envelops it. Objectivity and rationality, will not
sustain the core of it's BEing...for it is a BEing that wants and
NEEDS to feel. It needs warmth.

"WE" need to feel. And yet, our justifications are lost to stark
realities we can no longer bear for long. Our shelter of God is gone,
laying us naked to the elements..and our humanity slowly 'dies' within
it's own yolk from the harshness, no longer protected.

Who are we to believe now? Our fifth period physics professor? Alice
next door? The man on the television? Maybe 'smiler' here has the
answers? Or perhaps just to believe in ourselves, lost in time and
space, but existentially real? Or like most of us, perhaps in a state
of purgatory, caught struggling against the tide, while swept along
against our will, not sure just where it takes us now. No logs by the
name of God there now onto which we can hang to save us from
drowning. Time to swim; time for nestlings to be pushed from their
nest and fly upon their own [perhaps]; that we become our own moral
agents...professed with memories of rapture and a determination to
'GET BACK' to our perch on yon hilltop.

God was many things to us through the years; a meaning, a comfort, a
goal. In last light, we might recognize that God was NOTHING;
ever...and yet, we proceeded to know VIRTUE in ourselves nonetheless.
Now, that we are FORCED to embrace that nothingness, it should become
apparent also that we have 'free will' enough to demand of ourselves
whatever we desire; no longer in need of God or the gods, but acting
responsibly on behalf of ourselves.

What does all this mean? Whatever God was to us...LOVE was real
enough. In that conveyance, no object has ever dictated to us how to
be, but only nurtured our capacity to FEEL. IN the end, perhaps we
will need NO OBJECT; no ball and shackle...but freely feel as our will
demands. Toward one another; toward the stars; toward God
HImself...even as the nothingness that is all around...

Why? I think it simply becomes a matter of choice.
Smiler
2011-10-26 22:51:51 UTC
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Post by tooly
Post by Smiler
SUBJECT: Be humble before the God Almighty
What god? You've yet to show evidence that such a being exists outside
your demented mind. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
There is a precious egg out there sitting in it's nest...fragile as
all hell. It is the egg of humanity; contained within it's innards
all the hopes and promises of all generations gone by, in futures of
high meaning as found in each new generation pushing on to a certain
percieved manifest of an even GREATER humanity and then a greater
humanity still. Heavenly vistas of paradise on earth, but not found
in gold, but in the virtues of human compassion and moral BEing.
Who is gonna sit on it NOW; who is gonna protect it with all the
jackhammers and bulldozers of science and small minded intellectuals
running about? Who is gonna nurture it's promise of a tomorrow based
in higher virtue?
Indeed...'what God'? What demented silly beliefs that held warmth to
it's comfort in past years, will work NOW; in times of such
learnedness and raised consciousness to the stars? Science tries to
become a surrogate mother to it's domain, but it's cold objectivity
only provides the egg with justifications of, well...that coldness it
now feels that envelops it. Objectivity and rationality, will not
sustain the core of it's BEing...for it is a BEing that wants and
NEEDS to feel. It needs warmth.
"WE" need to feel. And yet, our justifications are lost to stark
realities we can no longer bear for long. Our shelter of God is gone,
laying us naked to the elements..and our humanity slowly 'dies' within
it's own yolk from the harshness, no longer protected.
Who are we to believe now? Our fifth period physics professor? Alice
next door? The man on the television? Maybe 'smiler' here has the
answers? Or perhaps just to believe in ourselves, lost in time and
space, but existentially real? Or like most of us, perhaps in a state
of purgatory, caught struggling against the tide, while swept along
against our will, not sure just where it takes us now. No logs by the
name of God there now onto which we can hang to save us from
drowning. Time to swim; time for nestlings to be pushed from their
nest and fly upon their own [perhaps]; that we become our own moral
agents...professed with memories of rapture and a determination to
'GET BACK' to our perch on yon hilltop.
God was many things to us through the years; a meaning, a comfort, a
goal. In last light, we might recognize that God was NOTHING;
ever...and yet, we proceeded to know VIRTUE in ourselves nonetheless.
Now, that we are FORCED to embrace that nothingness, it should become
apparent also that we have 'free will' enough to demand of ourselves
whatever we desire; no longer in need of God or the gods, but acting
responsibly on behalf of ourselves.
What does all this mean? Whatever God was to us...LOVE was real
enough. In that conveyance, no object has ever dictated to us how to
be, but only nurtured our capacity to FEEL. IN the end, perhaps we
will need NO OBJECT; no ball and shackle...but freely feel as our will
demands. Toward one another; toward the stars; toward God
HImself...even as the nothingness that is all around...
Why? I think it simply becomes a matter of choice.
Nope. No evidence there.
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Father Haskell
2011-10-26 23:08:37 UTC
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On Oct 24, 5:28 am, yjk <***@gmail.com> wrote:

(snip)

Nah, Clapton's overrated.
Smiler
2011-10-27 22:50:59 UTC
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Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Father Haskell
2011-10-28 03:13:56 UTC
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Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Alex W.
2011-10-28 09:50:12 UTC
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Post by Father Haskell
Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Eno wouldn't know a good riff if you made him play a guitar
strung with razorwire.

Now Hendrix, OTOH....
Smiler
2011-10-29 00:15:40 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Eno wouldn't know a good riff if you made him play a guitar
strung with razorwire.
I thought Eno's for 'inner cleanliness' :-)
Post by Alex W.
Now Hendrix, OTOH....
Clapton, Hendrix and Knopfler...
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Father Haskell
2011-10-29 00:17:18 UTC
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Post by Smiler
Post by Alex W.
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Eno wouldn't know a good riff if you made him play a guitar
strung with razorwire.
I thought Eno's for 'inner cleanliness' :-)
Post by Alex W.
Now Hendrix, OTOH....
Clapton, Hendrix and Knopfler...
Zappa.
Alex W.
2011-10-29 00:45:45 UTC
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Post by Smiler
Post by Alex W.
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Eno wouldn't know a good riff if you made him play a guitar
strung with razorwire.
I thought Eno's for 'inner cleanliness' :-)
Are you thinking of Venos?
Post by Smiler
Post by Alex W.
Now Hendrix, OTOH....
Clapton, Hendrix and Knopfler...
Green, Moore, Page, Blackmore, Richards, Beck, Iommi, Fripp ....
the Yanks may have invented the electrificated guitar, but it
took Brits to make it squal in orgasmic agony!
Smiler
2011-10-30 23:29:40 UTC
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Post by Alex W.
Post by Smiler
Post by Alex W.
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Eno wouldn't know a good riff if you made him play a guitar
strung with razorwire.
I thought Eno's for 'inner cleanliness' :-)
Are you thinking of Venos?
Nope. Eno's fruit salts. Veno's is/was a cough medicine.
Eno's was a fizzy Epsom Salts type powder, the forerunner of Alka Seltzer.
Their UK TV advertising jingle was "Eno's, Eno's, for inner cleanliness!"
See
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-AD-ENOS-FRUIT-SALTS-INNER-CLEANLINESS-/140502028562
for a printed US advert.
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Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Alex W.
2011-10-31 01:51:07 UTC
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Post by Smiler
Post by Alex W.
Post by Smiler
Post by Alex W.
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Eno wouldn't know a good riff if you made him play a guitar
strung with razorwire.
I thought Eno's for 'inner cleanliness' :-)
Are you thinking of Venos?
Nope. Eno's fruit salts. Veno's is/was a cough medicine.
Eno's was a fizzy Epsom Salts type powder, the forerunner of Alka Seltzer.
Their UK TV advertising jingle was "Eno's, Eno's, for inner cleanliness!"
See
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-AD-ENOS-FRUIT-SALTS-INNER-CLEANLINESS-/140502028562
for a printed US advert.
Ah, had to look that one up.
I'm a milk of magnesia man myself, never saw the need to look
around for alternative products.

Wikipedia says it's been withdrawn from the UK market, so you had
better stock up...

JohnN
2011-10-29 22:20:58 UTC
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Post by Smiler
Post by Alex W.
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Eno wouldn't know a good riff if you made him play a guitar
strung with razorwire.
I thought Eno's for 'inner cleanliness' :-)
Post by Alex W.
Now Hendrix, OTOH....
Clapton, Hendrix and Knopfler...
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Chet Atkins.

JohnN
Father Haskell
2011-10-30 13:58:30 UTC
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Post by JohnN
Post by Smiler
Post by Alex W.
Post by Father Haskell
Post by Smiler
Post by Father Haskell
(snip)
Nah, Clapton's overrated.
DIE, HERETIC!!
Eno is the one true god, anyway.
Eno wouldn't know a good riff if you made him play a guitar
strung with razorwire.
I thought Eno's for 'inner cleanliness' :-)
Post by Alex W.
Now Hendrix, OTOH....
Clapton, Hendrix and Knopfler...
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Chet Atkins.
JohnN
Chuck Berry.
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