Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves from cradle to grave...

[old man joe]

God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners. some are shown mercy, some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you suppose the
atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?

" He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. "
( Ro. 9:18 )

while the Atheist rightly looks upon what TV evangelists preach as trash, and as he sees the
murderous, money grabbing philosophy of selling forgiveness of sins the Catholics are famous for, as
well as their idol worship and Polytheism... if he's ever encountered a Moonie or a Jehovah
Witness... he rightly sees no value in religion... none of these are telling the truth about the
Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ.

the only source of truth is in the Holy Scriptures.

there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto salvation; it is God choice
who will be saved and who will not be saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

while the Evangelical types insist otherwise, saying Christ died for everybody and desperately
wants all to make a decision to accept Him as their Lord and Savior so as to become saved... the
Bible says quite to the contrary.

the Bible says He came to save " His people " ( Mt. 1:21 ) and no one else. ( Jn. 17:9 ) it is
these and these alone who have been given the faith of Jesus Christ and are saved unto eternal life.
Gal. 2:16

those of His marked for mercy are those who's names He wrote in His Book of Life before He ever
created the all things. and, wonderfully, the good and bad people do are never taken into account
when He made this choice ( Ro. 9:11 )... it rests solely in the secret counsel of God.

He is called ' Almighty ' since He can make anew the most hardened sinner as well as keep under
chains those who are appointed to His wrath.

in fact, our word ' atheist ' comes from the Bible and is found there only once in Eph. 2:12 and is
rendered " without God. " the amazing interpretation the Fundamentalists put on this word ' atheist
' is contrary to the whole of Scripture... to be an Atheist doesn't mean that one has weighed all
the facts he can gather and conclude's there is no God to answer to.

what it does mean is as the verse it's found in describes, and many other passages speaking to why a
person is ' without God. ' these are said by God to ' hardened '
( Ro. 9:18 ) ... without hope, strangers and aliens to all things freely bestowed upon those to whom
God does indeed have mercy... the Atheist is dead in sin; he is hated by God
( Ps. 5:4-6 ) God is angry with him everyday. Ps. 7:11

all this and more is exactly why the Atheist mocks the Bible and God Himself; he is abandoned by
God for anything more than the general grace He gives to all mankind.

[Free Lunch]

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners. some are shown mercy, some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you suppose the
atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?
" He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. "
( Ro. 9:18 )

Why do you allege that the Bible backs you up, when you never bother to
establish that the Bible is accurate or reliable?

Post by old man joe
while the Atheist rightly looks upon what TV evangelists preach as trash, and as he sees the
murderous, money grabbing philosophy of selling forgiveness of sins the Catholics are famous for, as
well as their idol worship and Polytheism... if he's ever encountered a Moonie or a Jehovah
Witness... he rightly sees no value in religion... none of these are telling the truth about the
Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ.
the only source of truth is in the Holy Scriptures.

So you say, but fail to support.

Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto salvation; it is God choice
who will be saved and who will not be saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your interpretation.

Post by old man joe
while the Evangelical types insist otherwise, saying Christ died for everybody and desperately
wants all to make a decision to accept Him as their Lord and Savior so as to become saved... the
Bible says quite to the contrary.
the Bible says He came to save " His people " ( Mt. 1:21 ) and no one else. ( Jn. 17:9 ) it is
these and these alone who have been given the faith of Jesus Christ and are saved unto eternal life.
Gal. 2:16

Then it really doesn't matter what we believe.

Post by old man joe
those of His marked for mercy are those who's names He wrote in His Book of Life before He ever
created the all things. and, wonderfully, the good and bad people do are never taken into account
when He made this choice ( Ro. 9:11 )... it rests solely in the secret counsel of God.
He is called ' Almighty ' since He can make anew the most hardened sinner as well as keep under
chains those who are appointed to His wrath.

As far as we can tell, God has done nothing at all. There's no evidence
to support any of your claims.

Post by old man joe
in fact, our word ' atheist ' comes from the Bible and is found there only once in Eph. 2:12 and is
rendered " without God. " the amazing interpretation the Fundamentalists put on this word ' atheist
' is contrary to the whole of Scripture... to be an Atheist doesn't mean that one has weighed all
the facts he can gather and conclude's there is no God to answer to.
what it does mean is as the verse it's found in describes, and many other passages speaking to why a
person is ' without God. ' these are said by God to ' hardened '
( Ro. 9:18 ) ... without hope, strangers and aliens to all things freely bestowed upon those to whom
God does indeed have mercy... the Atheist is dead in sin; he is hated by God
( Ps. 5:4-6 ) God is angry with him everyday. Ps. 7:11
all this and more is exactly why the Atheist mocks the Bible and God Himself; he is abandoned by
God for anything more than the general grace He gives to all mankind.

I find useful things in the Bible, not many, but a few. The Beatitudes
are a great way to get supposed Christians who are reactionary
Republicans to shut up for a few minutes. Paul's support of slavery and
treatment of women as slaves is a good way to remind people that the
Bible was wrong on those things. I don't mock God because there's no
reason to accept the claim he exists. I mock you because you are smug,
incompetent, liar who is proud of how little you know and refuse to
learn anything.

[Darrell Stec]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be saved.
Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few were
chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved. That is
about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very soon.

But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The authors
have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses, not once, not
twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and an elephant comes to
mind.

[Father Haskell]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation;  it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be saved.
Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your interpretation.

Actually, not really.  Joshua did say that many were called but few were
chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved.  That is
about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very soon.

7,000,000,000 people / 144,000 "saved" = 48611 / 1.

Draw your own conclusion.

But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions.  The authors
have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses, not once, not
twice, but frequently.  Something about a committee and an elephant comes to
mind.

A committee of shovellers and an elephant.

[Smiler]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be
saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few
were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved.
That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very
soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The
authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,
not once, not twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and
an elephant comes to mind.

Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a committee.

[old man joe]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be
saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few
were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved.
That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very
soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The
authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,
not once, not twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and
an elephant comes to mind.

Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a committee.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

[Father Haskell]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation;  it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be
saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Actually, not really.  Joshua did say that many were called but few
were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved.
That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very
soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions.  The
authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,
not once, not twice, but frequently.  Something about a committee and
an elephant comes to mind.

Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a committee.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. "  1 Cor. 1:18- Hide quoted text -
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What does that have to do with camels?

[Smiler]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ
unto salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will
not be saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few
were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be
saved. That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes
very, very soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The
authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,
not once, not twice, but frequently. Something about a committee
and an elephant comes to mind.

Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a
committee.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18-

What does that have to do with camels?

He likes to hump them?

[Father Haskell]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ
unto salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will
not be saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few
were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be
saved. That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes
very, very soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The
authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,
not once, not twice, but frequently. Something about a committee
and an elephant comes to mind.

Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a committee.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18-

What does that have to do with camels?

He likes to hump them?

Only if he wears a paper bag on his head so he
doesn't frighten them.

[Free Lunch]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be
saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few
were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved.
That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very
soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The
authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,
not once, not twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and
an elephant comes to mind.

Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a committee.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

Why would anyone believe what Paul had to say?

You've got no evidence at all that Paul was saying anything that God
wanted. When you have evidence that the Bible is trustworthy, get back
to us.

[old man joe]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be
saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few
were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved.
That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very
soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The
authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,
not once, not twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and
an elephant comes to mind.

Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a committee.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

Why would anyone believe what Paul had to say?
You've got no evidence at all that Paul was saying anything that God
wanted. When you have evidence that the Bible is trustworthy, get back
to us.

there is no proof whatsoever that an Atheist can accept concerning the Living God of the Bible...
they are " hardened, " ( Ro. 9:18 )... they are given a life " without hope " ( Eph. 2:12 ) they
are " atheos, " ( Eph. 2:12 ) atheist's... they are " without God. "

the Atheist know's there is God since God made Himself evident to everyone rendering everyone
" without excuse. " ( Ro. 1:18-20 )

[Robibnikoff]

"old man joe" <***@home.001> wrote

Dishonest nym-shifter. So like a theist <spit>

[Free Lunch]

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Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be
saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few
were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved.
That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very
soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The
authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,
not once, not twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and
an elephant comes to mind.

Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a committee.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

Why would anyone believe what Paul had to say?
You've got no evidence at all that Paul was saying anything that God
wanted. When you have evidence that the Bible is trustworthy, get back
to us.

there is no proof whatsoever that an Atheist can accept concerning the Living God of the Bible...
they are " hardened, " ( Ro. 9:18 )... they are given a life " without hope " ( Eph. 2:12 ) they
are " atheos, " ( Eph. 2:12 ) atheist's... they are " without God. "
the Atheist know's there is God since God made Himself evident to everyone rendering everyone
" without excuse. " ( Ro. 1:18-20 )

Joe, you immoral fool, why do you keep telling lies about others and
blaming God for your immoral behavior? Stop being proud of the defective
god you have invented and stop worshipping your ignorance and
foolishness. Repent.

[old man joe]

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Post by Free Lunch

Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be saved.
Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few were
chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved. That is
about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The authors
have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses, not once, not
twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and an elephant comes to
mind.

it is simply not given to Atheists to understand the Bible... they are " hardened. " Ro. 9:18

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

[Father Haskell]

it is simply not given to Atheists to understand the Bible... they are " hardened. "  Ro. 9:18

You misspelt "educated."

[Free Lunch]

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Post by Darrell Stec

Post by Free Lunch

Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto
salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be saved.
Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your interpretation.

Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few were
chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved. That is
about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very soon.
But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The authors
have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses, not once, not
twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and an elephant comes to
mind.

it is simply not given to Atheists to understand the Bible... they are " hardened. " Ro. 9:18

I understand the Bible, that I why I reject so many teachings in it.

You have chosen to be a fool. That is why you cannot learn.

Post by old man joe
" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

Saved? Show me.

[old man joe]

Post by Free Lunch

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners. some are shown mercy, some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you suppose the
atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?
" He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. "
( Ro. 9:18 )

Why do you allege that the Bible backs you up, when you never bother to
establish that the Bible is accurate or reliable?

Post by old man joe
while the Atheist rightly looks upon what TV evangelists preach as trash, and as he sees the
murderous, money grabbing philosophy of selling forgiveness of sins the Catholics are famous for, as
well as their idol worship and Polytheism... if he's ever encountered a Moonie or a Jehovah
Witness... he rightly sees no value in religion... none of these are telling the truth about the
Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ.
the only source of truth is in the Holy Scriptures.

So you say, but fail to support.

Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto salvation; it is God choice
who will be saved and who will not be saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your interpretation.

Post by old man joe
while the Evangelical types insist otherwise, saying Christ died for everybody and desperately
wants all to make a decision to accept Him as their Lord and Savior so as to become saved... the
Bible says quite to the contrary.
the Bible says He came to save " His people " ( Mt. 1:21 ) and no one else. ( Jn. 17:9 ) it is
these and these alone who have been given the faith of Jesus Christ and are saved unto eternal life.
Gal. 2:16

Then it really doesn't matter what we believe.

Post by old man joe
those of His marked for mercy are those who's names He wrote in His Book of Life before He ever
created the all things. and, wonderfully, the good and bad people do are never taken into account
when He made this choice ( Ro. 9:11 )... it rests solely in the secret counsel of God.
He is called ' Almighty ' since He can make anew the most hardened sinner as well as keep under
chains those who are appointed to His wrath.

As far as we can tell, God has done nothing at all. There's no evidence
to support any of your claims.

Post by old man joe
in fact, our word ' atheist ' comes from the Bible and is found there only once in Eph. 2:12 and is
rendered " without God. " the amazing interpretation the Fundamentalists put on this word ' atheist
' is contrary to the whole of Scripture... to be an Atheist doesn't mean that one has weighed all
the facts he can gather and conclude's there is no God to answer to.
what it does mean is as the verse it's found in describes, and many other passages speaking to why a
person is ' without God. ' these are said by God to ' hardened '
( Ro. 9:18 ) ... without hope, strangers and aliens to all things freely bestowed upon those to whom
God does indeed have mercy... the Atheist is dead in sin; he is hated by God
( Ps. 5:4-6 ) God is angry with him everyday. Ps. 7:11
all this and more is exactly why the Atheist mocks the Bible and God Himself; he is abandoned by
God for anything more than the general grace He gives to all mankind.

I find useful things in the Bible, not many, but a few. The Beatitudes
are a great way to get supposed Christians who are reactionary
Republicans to shut up for a few minutes. Paul's support of slavery and
treatment of women as slaves is a good way to remind people that the
Bible was wrong on those things. I don't mock God because there's no
reason to accept the claim he exists. I mock you because you are smug,
incompetent, liar who is proud of how little you know and refuse to
learn anything.

it's only natural that Atheist's resort to personal attacks to hide their ignorance.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

[Smiler]

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Post by Free Lunch

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to
carry on with His work of saving sinners. some are shown mercy,
some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you suppose the
atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?
" He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.
" ( Ro. 9:18 )

Why do you allege that the Bible backs you up, when you never bother
to establish that the Bible is accurate or reliable?

Post by old man joe
while the Atheist rightly looks upon what TV evangelists preach as
trash, and as he sees the murderous, money grabbing philosophy of
selling forgiveness of sins the Catholics are famous for, as well
as their idol worship and Polytheism... if he's ever encountered a
Moonie or a Jehovah Witness... he rightly sees no value in
religion... none of these are telling the truth about the Person
and work of the Lord Jesus Christ.
the only source of truth is in the Holy Scriptures.

So you say, but fail to support.

Post by old man joe
there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ
unto salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will
not be saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.

So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your
interpretation.

Post by old man joe
while the Evangelical types insist otherwise, saying Christ died
for everybody and desperately wants all to make a decision to
accept Him as their Lord and Savior so as to become saved... the
Bible says quite to the contrary.
the Bible says He came to save " His people " ( Mt. 1:21 ) and no
one else. ( Jn. 17:9 ) it is these and these alone who have been
given the faith of Jesus Christ and are saved unto eternal life.
Gal. 2:16

Then it really doesn't matter what we believe.

Post by old man joe
those of His marked for mercy are those who's names He wrote in
His Book of Life before He ever created the all things. and,
wonderfully, the good and bad people do are never taken into
account when He made this choice ( Ro. 9:11 )... it rests solely in
the secret counsel of God.
He is called ' Almighty ' since He can make anew the most hardened
sinner as well as keep under chains those who are appointed to His
wrath.

As far as we can tell, God has done nothing at all. There's no
evidence to support any of your claims.

Post by old man joe
in fact, our word ' atheist ' comes from the Bible and is found
there only once in Eph. 2:12 and is rendered " without God. " the
amazing interpretation the Fundamentalists put on this word '
atheist ' is contrary to the whole of Scripture... to be an Atheist
doesn't mean that one has weighed all the facts he can gather and
conclude's there is no God to answer to.
what it does mean is as the verse it's found in describes, and many
other passages speaking to why a person is ' without God. ' these
are said by God to ' hardened ' ( Ro. 9:18 ) ... without hope,
strangers and aliens to all things freely bestowed upon those to
whom God does indeed have mercy... the Atheist is dead in sin; he
is hated by God ( Ps. 5:4-6 ) God is angry with him everyday. Ps.
7:11
all this and more is exactly why the Atheist mocks the Bible and
God Himself; he is abandoned by God for anything more than the
general grace He gives to all mankind.

I find useful things in the Bible, not many, but a few. The
Beatitudes are a great way to get supposed Christians who are
reactionary Republicans to shut up for a few minutes. Paul's support
of slavery and treatment of women as slaves is a good way to remind
people that the Bible was wrong on those things. I don't mock God
because there's no reason to accept the claim he exists. I mock you
because you are smug, incompetent, liar who is proud of how little
you know and refuse to learn anything.

it's only natural that Atheist's resort to personal attacks to hide their ignorance.
" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

It's only natural that Christians resort to the bible to show their
ignorance.

[raven1]

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners. some are shown mercy, some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you suppose the
atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?
" He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. "
( Ro. 9:18 )

Then it's a pretty fucking stupid waste of bandwidth to be preaching
at us.

[MarkA]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:12:45 -0400, old man joe wrote:

Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves from
cradle to grave...
The "default belief system" is to believe in some sort of supernatural
entity that causes the events around us. That is why virtually every
culture has some sort of belief in god(s). Only when our brains become
advanced enough that the average person can recognize and deny
superstition will that change.

[old man joe]

Post by MarkA
Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves from
cradle to grave...
The "default belief system" is to believe in some sort of supernatural
entity that causes the events around us. That is why virtually every
culture has some sort of belief in god(s). Only when our brains become
advanced enough that the average person can recognize and deny
superstition will that change.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1Cor. 1:18

[Smiler]

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Post by MarkA
Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves from
cradle to grave...
The "default belief system" is to believe in some sort of
supernatural entity that causes the events around us. That is why
virtually every culture has some sort of belief in god(s). Only
when our brains become advanced enough that the average person can
recognize and deny superstition will that change.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. " 1Cor. 1:18

Supposed magic spells taken from your book of fairy tales don't work here,
old man joke.

[Father Haskell]

Post by Smiler

Post by old man joe

Post by MarkA
Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves from
cradle to grave...
The "default belief system" is to believe in some sort of
supernatural entity that causes the events around us.  That is why
virtually every culture has some sort of belief in god(s).  Only
when our brains become advanced enough that the average person can
recognize and deny superstition will that change.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. "  1Cor. 1:18

Supposed magic spells taken from your book of fairy tales don't work here,
old man joke.

Next time, try "Eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about
to speak!"

[Smiler]

Post by Father Haskell

Post by Smiler

Post by old man joe

Post by MarkA
Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves
from cradle to grave...
The "default belief system" is to believe in some sort of
supernatural entity that causes the events around us. That is why
virtually every culture has some sort of belief in god(s). Only
when our brains become advanced enough that the average person can
recognize and deny superstition will that change.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. " 1Cor. 1:18

Supposed magic spells taken from your book of fairy tales don't work
here, old man joke.

Next time, try "Eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about
to speak!"

But he *must* do that before he farts another of his posts in our direction.

[MarkA]

Post by old man joe

Post by MarkA
Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves from
cradle to grave...
The "default belief system" is to believe in some sort of supernatural
entity that causes the events around us. That is why virtually every
culture has some sort of belief in god(s). Only when our brains become
advanced enough that the average person can recognize and deny
superstition will that change.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but
unto us which are saved it is the power of God. " 1Cor. 1:18

If that be true, why do so many professed Christians act like such fools?

[Free Lunch]

Post by MarkA

Post by old man joe

Post by MarkA
Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves from
cradle to grave...
The "default belief system" is to believe in some sort of supernatural
entity that causes the events around us. That is why virtually every
culture has some sort of belief in god(s). Only when our brains become
advanced enough that the average person can recognize and deny
superstition will that change.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but
unto us which are saved it is the power of God. " 1Cor. 1:18

If that be true, why do so many professed Christians act like such fools?

Anyone can say they are a Christian, even if they mock everything Jesus
taught. Our dear friend, old man joe, is one such supposed Christian who
would never be convicted of being a believer based on what he does.

[Father Haskell]

Post by Free Lunch

Post by MarkA

Post by old man joe

Post by MarkA
Atheism... the default belief system of those left to themselves from
cradle to grave...
The "default belief system" is to believe in some sort of supernatural
entity that causes the events around us.  That is why virtually every
culture has some sort of belief in god(s).  Only when our brains become
advanced enough that the average person can recognize and deny
superstition will that change.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but
unto us which are saved it is the power of God. "  1Cor. 1:18

If that be true, why do so many professed Christians act like such fools?

Anyone can say they are a Christian, even if they mock everything Jesus
taught. Our dear friend, old man joe, is one such supposed Christian who
would never be convicted of being a believer based on what he does.- Hide quoted text -
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Most christians are Satanists, and they know it.

[Syd M.]

  God Almighty

Not interested.

PDW

[old man joe]

Post by Syd M.

  God Almighty

Not interested.
PDW

being ' not interested ' verifies Ro. 9:18.

[Father Haskell]

Post by Syd M.

  God Almighty

Not interested.
PDW

being ' not interested  ' verifies Ro. 9:18.

No, it verifies STFU.

[Free Lunch]

Post by old man joe

Post by Syd M.

  God Almighty

Not interested.
PDW

being ' not interested ' verifies Ro. 9:18.

No.

You are just another sucker who was victimized by con men.

[SkyEyes]

  God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners.  some are shown mercy, some are hardened.  ( Ro. 9:18 )  

If that's the case, free will is nothing but a fantasy.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

[old man joe]

Post by SkyEyes

  God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners.  some are shown mercy, some are hardened.  ( Ro. 9:18 )  

If that's the case, free will is nothing but a fantasy.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

the Bible teaches man has a will but it is certainly not free... the unsaved are bound by Satan to
do his will...

" In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them
repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;And that they may recover themselves out of the snare
of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. " 2 Tim. 2:25,26

" Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word, Ye are of your father the
devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. " Jn. 8:43,44

" We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. "
1 Jn. 5:19

[Free Lunch]

Post by old man joe

Post by SkyEyes

  God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners.  some are shown mercy, some are hardened.  ( Ro. 9:18 )  

If that's the case, free will is nothing but a fantasy.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

the Bible teaches man has a will but it is certainly not free... the unsaved are bound by Satan to
do his will...
" In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them
repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;And that they may recover themselves out of the snare
of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. " 2 Tim. 2:25,26
" Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word, Ye are of your father the
devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. " Jn. 8:43,44
" We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. "
1 Jn. 5:19

The evidence tells us that you are one of Satan's minions. Right?

[Smiler]

Post by Free Lunch

Post by old man joe

Post by SkyEyes

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to
carry on with His work of saving sinners. some are shown mercy,
some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 )

If that's the case, free will is nothing but a fantasy.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

the Bible teaches man has a will but it is certainly not free... the
unsaved are bound by Satan to do his will...
" In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God
peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the
truth;And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the
devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. " 2 Tim. 2:25,26
" Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my
word, Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father
ye will do. " Jn. 8:43,44
" We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the
power of the evil one. " 1 Jn. 5:19

The evidence tells us that you are one of Satan's minions. Right?

Yep. He's the only one here who believes in Satan. I bet he even has a
pentacle in his basement.

[SkyEyes]

Post by old man joe

Post by SkyEyes

  God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners.  some are shown mercy, some are hardened.  ( Ro. 9:18 )  

If that's the case, free will is nothing but a fantasy.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

the Bible teaches man has a will but it is certainly not free... the unsaved are bound by Satan to
do his will...
"  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them
repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;And that they may recover themselves out of the snare
of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. "  2 Tim. 2:25,26
" Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word, Ye are of your father the
devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. "  Jn. 8:43,44
" We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. "
1 Jn. 5:19

So if we atheists don't have free will, why the fuck do you insist on
preaching to us? It's not going to change anything, is it?

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor
to carry on with His work of saving sinners. some are shown
mercy, some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you
suppose the atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?

Idiot.

[old man joe]

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor
to carry on with His work of saving sinners. some are shown
mercy, some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you
suppose the atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?

Idiot.

yet another hardened Atheist who try's to hide his ignorance by name calling... so as to fell
superior.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

[Virgil]

Post by old man joe
" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto
us which are saved it
is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

What makes Jesus any Holier than Mohammed, or your god any more real
than,say, the Hindu gods?

All such choices of religion are false.

[Smiler]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:35:01 -0400, Christopher A. Lee

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor
to carry on with His work of saving sinners. some are shown
mercy, some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you
suppose the atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?

Idiot.

yet another hardened Atheist who try's to hide his ignorance by name
calling... so as to fell superior.

You might 'fell' superior, but your spelling tells a different story.

" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18

Supposed magic spells taken from your book of fairy tales don't work here,
old man joke.

[Uncle Vic]

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists

And neither do you, so why don't you just leave us alone? Or do we cause
you to have nightmares, because deep down you think we might be right?

[old man joe]

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists

And neither do you, so why don't you just leave us alone? Or do we cause
you to have nightmares, because deep down you think we might be right?

to me to think Atheists are ' right ' is the same as me thinking the off-spring of Satan are
right... " Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word, Ye are of your
father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do... " Jn. 8:43,44

[Father Haskell]

Post by old man joe

  God Almighty doesn't need His atheists

And neither do you, so why don't you just leave us alone?  Or do we cause
you to have nightmares, because deep down you think we might be right?

to me to think Atheists are ' right ' is the same as me thinking the
off-spring of Satan are right...

How do you know Satan's kids are wrong? I mean,
unless you're holding their last name against them.

[Smiler]

Post by old man joe

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists

And neither do you, so why don't you just leave us alone? Or do we
cause you to have nightmares, because deep down you think we might
be right?

to me to think Atheists are ' right ' is the same as me thinking the
off-spring of Satan are right... " Why do ye not understand my
speech? even because ye cannot hear my word, Ye are of your father
the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do... " Jn. 8:43,44

Another Satanist outs himself.
Clue: Atheists do not believe in your god, Satan, either.

[Uncle Vic]

Post by old man joe

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists

And neither do you, so why don't you just leave us alone? Or do we
cause you to have nightmares, because deep down you think we might be
right?

to me to think Atheists are ' right ' is the same as me thinking the
off-spring of Satan are right... " Why do ye not understand my speech?
even because ye cannot hear my word, Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do... " Jn. 8:43,44

I think you babbling morons only post here because you DO think we're
right, but desperately want us to be wrong.

<No bible quote will follow.>

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by old man joe

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists

And neither do you, so why don't you just leave us alone? Or do we cause
you to have nightmares, because deep down you think we might be right?

to me to think Atheists are ' right ' is the same as me thinking the off-spring of Satan are
right... " Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word, Ye are of your
father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do... " Jn. 8:43,44

You're clinically, certifiably insane.

[thomas p.]

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists

And neither do you, so why don't you just leave us alone? Or do we cause
you to have nightmares, because deep down you think we might be right?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
"The Bible talks about the first rainbow after the Great Flood, and we see
rainbows in the sky today. This is proof of the divinity of Jesus Christ
and the existence of God." - Zacharias Mulletstein

He has a great need to find people that he can look down on, even if he has
to
create them; as he does with his personal version of atheists.

[Yap]

  God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners.  some are shown mercy, some are hardened.  ( Ro. 9:18 )  now, where do you suppose the
atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?

No, it doesn't need any one to approve.
But, it is the imaginative sky pixie of bigots that needs to be
approved for the consumption of the young minds.
You get it?

  " He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. "
( Ro. 9:18 )
  while the Atheist rightly looks upon what TV evangelists preach as trash, and as he sees the
murderous, money grabbing philosophy of selling forgiveness of sins the Catholics are famous for, as
well as their idol worship and Polytheism... if he's ever encountered a Moonie or a Jehovah
Witness...  he rightly sees no value in religion... none of these are telling the truth about the
Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ.
  the only source of truth is in the Holy Scriptures.
  there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto salvation;  it is God choice
who will be saved and who will not be saved.  Romans 9:18 tells you that.
  while the Evangelical types insist otherwise, saying Christ died for everybody and desperately
wants all to make a decision to accept Him as their Lord and Savior so as to become saved... the
Bible says quite to the contrary.
  the Bible says He came to save " His people " ( Mt. 1:21 ) and no one else. ( Jn. 17:9 )  it is
these and these alone who have been given the faith of Jesus Christ and are saved unto eternal life.
Gal. 2:16
  those of His marked for mercy are those who's names He wrote in His Book of Life before He ever
created the all things.  and, wonderfully, the good and bad people do are never taken into account
when He made this choice ( Ro. 9:11 )... it rests solely in the secret counsel of God.
  He is called ' Almighty ' since He can make anew the most hardened sinner as well as keep under
chains those who are appointed to His wrath.  
in fact, our word ' atheist ' comes from the Bible and is found there only once in Eph. 2:12 and is
rendered " without God. "  the amazing interpretation the Fundamentalists put on this word ' atheist
' is contrary to the whole of Scripture... to be an Atheist doesn't mean that one has weighed all
the facts he can gather and conclude's there is no God to answer to.
what it does mean is as the verse it's found in describes, and many other passages speaking to why a
person is ' without God. '  these are said by God to ' hardened '
( Ro. 9:18 ) ... without hope, strangers and aliens to all things freely bestowed upon those to whom
God does indeed have mercy... the Atheist is dead in sin; he is hated by God
( Ps. 5:4-6 )  God is angry with him everyday.  Ps. 7:11
all this and more is exactly why the Atheist mocks the Bible and God Himself;  he is abandoned by
God for anything more than the general grace He gives to all mankind.

[Richo]

  God Almighty

<snip>
Is someone else's imaginary friend.

Not mine.

Also atheism isn't a "belief system" its much more much simple than
that.
It's the rejection or denial of your belief that God almighty is real
and important.
Gods are in general not real but even when they are it isnt a good
idea to worship them.

Making real things into gods is, in my opinion, actually worse than
worshiping imaginary gods.
That's just my opinion - my choice - you can bow down and worship any
idol you like.
Just don't expect me to admire you for it.
It is not wise or noble - it doesn't make you smart or good.

Mark.

[Smiler]

Post by Richo

Post by old man joe
God Almighty

<snip>
Is someone else's imaginary friend.
Not mine.
Also atheism isn't a "belief system" its much more much simple than
that.
It's the rejection or denial of your belief that God almighty is real
and important.
Gods are in general not real but even when they are it isnt a good
idea to worship them.
Making real things into gods is, in my opinion, actually worse than
worshiping imaginary gods.
That's just my opinion - my choice - you can bow down and worship any
idol you like.
Just don't expect me to admire you for it.
It is not wise or noble - it doesn't make you smart or good.

Agreed, but the evidence shows that the reverse is true.
Religion makes you stupid and bad.

[p***@hotmail.com]

  God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor to carry on with His work of saving
sinners.  some are shown mercy, some are hardened.

snip

ROFL! What brand of bourbon are you drinking?

Alternatively, what's the source of your illiteracy?

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!

[Budikka666]

Where's your evidence for this god, Old Man Joke? Put up or shut up,
because if you don't have evidence all you have is LIES, and if you
think you can convince atheists with LIES instead of evidence, that
proves beyond doubt that you're too stupid to talk to.

Budikka

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by old man joe
God Almighty doesn't need His atheists approval to exist nor
to carry on with His work of saving sinners. some are shown mercy,
some are hardened. ( Ro. 9:18 ) now, where do you suppose the
atheist fits in to Romans 9:18 ?

Idiot.